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    If you have a part time employee that has another pt job, is it legal to call the other employer and verify that they called in sick that day?


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    #2
    Sounds like you already want that person gone, do you really need a reason? We’re in a right to work state and it doesn’t sound like you are a big company if you’re hiring PT employees.

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      #3
      Yes you do need a reason.

      Sure you can easily fire an employee just like you can walk down the street shouting bad things (freedom of speech). Doesn't mean it won't cost your company though.

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        #4
        If you don't trust this employee, why are they still working for you?

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          #5
          Originally posted by RiverRat1 View Post
          Yes you do need a reason.

          Sure you can easily fire an employee just like you can walk down the street shouting bad things (freedom of speech). Doesn't mean it won't cost your company though.
          You’re so far off the mark. You can let someone go BUT, most places document for CYA purposes for the EEOC. If you go into your work and start spouting out bad things you can be fired for harassment. You don’t have the same constitutional rights at work as you do on the street. You don’t have the right to privacy or the right to free speech because of harassment.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Homer75 View Post
            You’re so far off the mark. You can let someone go BUT, most places document for CYA purposes for the EEOC. If you go into your work and start spouting out bad things you can be fired for harassment. You don’t have the same constitutional rights at work as you do on the street. You don’t have the right to privacy or the right to free speech because of harassment.
            Maybe you should read what I wrote. You just said what I said.

            I agree you can fire all you want but you better CYA. I never saw an employer fire without covering their rear.

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              #7
              I said the CYA comment because, if you walk up and fire someone out of the blue you know retaliation will be for them to grab a lawyer and file a suit. The documenting is to simplify the lawsuit. In today’s society, people are so quick to slap a lawsuit against someone that you have to document everything.

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                #8
                Big difference between "right to work" and "at will employment" --

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                  #9
                  To me the bigger issue would be the other employer answering the question about an employers leave usage.

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                    #10
                    Right to work has nothing to do with it. At will may be more accurate.

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                      #11
                      I would say no. But cover your butt. Paper work, paper work, paper work.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by 4R Daddy View Post
                        If you have a part time employee that has another pt job, is it legal to call the other employer and verify that they called in sick that day?


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                        Reduce PT employee hours until its down to not worth showing up. Then close the position for job abandonment.

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                          #13
                          Reduce PT employee hours until its down to not worth showing up. Then close the position for job abandonment.
                          That too sounds good in theory but you'd better not hire a replacement for a good while, otherwise it's called "Constructive Discharge." EEOC doesn't like that tactic too much either, lol.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mike View Post
                            That too sounds good in theory but you'd better not hire a replacement for a good while, otherwise it's called "Constructive Discharge." EEOC doesn't like that tactic too much either, lol.
                            But I thought you could fire someone for no reason at all?

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                              #15
                              What happened to the good old days when I could fire your *** because I didn't like your looks ?

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