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    Originally posted by bobc View Post
    No one has mentioned the obvious. The security guard was the second shooter. He did his shooting, killed Paddock, then shot himself in the leg as the cover-up and ended up being the hero.
    As possible as any other story I've heard! He sure got to him quicker than the cops.

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      Wow some of these comments are pretty far out there. It's really easy to shoot a slidefire and I don't think we need a conspiracy theory to explain this one, it sounds like an evil man unfortunately.

      On a serious note I'm pretty worried that the realistic result of this is going to be universal gun registration which will lead to something worse when the dems take back control.

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        Originally posted by bloodstick View Post
        I watched an interview earlier on Fox where they said he bought his house in the culdesack using cash. He viewed the home for all of about 15 minutes then closed and paid cash as soon as possible.
        Again, I get how cash real estate purchases work. The deed will need to be recorded, taxes prorated and paid, there is a paper trail.

        Furthermore, I am pretty sure the house you are talking about is on Babbling Brook Court, in a development by Del Webb. Like as in a Master Planned community, that is owned by a publicly traded home builder. Those are the kind of sellers that will have a paper trail.

        Cash deals actually involve payment by certified funds. Coming to the closing table with a wad of bills or a briefcase with stacks of cash won't help the sale close any faster. In fact, literally paying for a home in cash violates the Real Estate Settlement and Procedures Act, which governs the formal closing process. The escrow holder requires an electronic funds transfer -- a wire -- or a cashier's check at closing for the sum of the sale price and the buyer's closing costs.

        The pic I posted above is from when he slipped at a casino, sued them and lost. But he is a multi-millionaire hermit with no paper trail? Why put himself out there like that, with cops, security guards, lawyers, judges, courtrooms, etc. for at most a $100Gs?
        Last edited by batmaninja; 10-05-2017, 09:06 AM.

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          Re-Write

          Originally posted by Man View Post
          Wow this has all the makings of a blockbuster movie. Hopefully Pixar has taken notice.
          Right! We need them to re-write the Manchurian Candidate and Have Soros behind it all.

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            Originally posted by Bill in San Jose View Post
            Questions: If this is a crime scene, would furniture be moved around? Why would a piece of furniture be moved by police in front of the open door? If the furniture was not moved and in the location found, why are there bullet holes behind the right double door, but none in the door itself?




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            I believed that is the left door on its side, behind the right door. But I wonder why it’s on its side like someone set it up that way. I would think it would be flat on the ground if they busted it in.


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              Its on its side to help secure the crime scene? There's another door they're using to now gain access. Jon

              You can see the bullet holes in the door.

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                Those hotel doors aint made of wood... im sure the breach was blowing of hinges.

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                  In just a few minutes, I can see that he closed at a title company and bought the home direct from a public builder. Meaning that the transaction was papered.
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                    Agree it's the door now that it's pointed out. Why use it to block a crime scene when theres tape and police on guard?


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                      Originally posted by batmaninja View Post
                      I have shot a slide fire before and understand how they work.

                      The DDM4V1 is nearly 7 pounds, without ammo. This guy has been described as a slob that sits in a chair, pulling a slot arm for a living or clicking on video poker buttons. Shooting that gun at nearly full auto, (off hand or from a tripod) is going to be pretty hard for dweebish looking guy in the picture below, IMHO.
                      Small children can run an AR with a slide fire.

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                        IMHO you guys are way overthinking the door. It was blown lord knows where on top of lord knows what at breach. It is now back roughly where it belongs. Not a part of the crime scene as it was used during the crime.


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                          I am guessing the lawsuits will be a plenty as they release more evidence.

                          Anyone heard of any yet?

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                            Originally posted by JHT View Post
                            I am guessing the lawsuits will be a plenty as they release more evidence.

                            Anyone heard of any yet?
                            Understanding that anyone can sue anybody, but what lawsuits do you expect to see? Who do you think will be sued?

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                              Originally posted by Man View Post
                              Me to....when it kicked in I would just lie down and smile at the ceiling till I fell asleep.
                              Causation correlation. The drug did not cause him to do anything it is just correlated to someone who may have some emotional or mental issue. I hate when they pull this kind of crap, it stigmatizes perfectly fine people who could live better lives by being on certain drugs. Lots of vets and other innocent people not getting the help they need because of the stigma associated with crap like this.

                              Im sure in an attempt to try and fix what was wrong with this guy at some point the drug was prescribed, it obviously did not work for him, it wont take the psycho out of a psychopath. In no way dose a benzodiazepine drug cause psychotic murder sprees.

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                                I will not be at all surprised if it turns out this guy made a lot of his money through a criminal enterprise of some sort. The sheriff used the terms "lived a secret life." This is is a perfect description of Paddocks father who was by all accounts a respectable businessman, husband and father - he just happened to rob banks on the side. Then he escaped from prison and lived under an assumed identity while embezzling from a bingo parlor. Stephen may have inherited some of those same traits. His brother and others have called him a "professional gambler" which in reality means "a guy who can afford to lose a lot of money." That money was coming from somewhere. He never had a job that was particularly high paying and hadn't worked in decades. Maybe he made it all in real estate - that's possible - I'm half expecting them to uncover something more nefarious

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