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    #16
    Originally posted by Ag_Attack View Post
    How do they know what others are making to do the same job? Obtaining that knowledge is sometimes a blessing and a curse.


    The positions under manager are on a set pay structure and pay is posted along with the position title.

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      #17
      Originally posted by LuBowhunter View Post
      So it's ok for them to give you the same title and duties as others who make more money according to a determined company pay scale for the title they hold. But not give you the same benefits as are defined by the pay scale. So it applies to everyone else with the same title but you?
      It's not right but they can do what they want. She should address it with her boss though in a calm professional way and hope it gets resolved. If there is an established pay scale for that position, she should ask them point blank why she isn't receiving that pay. If not, her only other options are to accept it or find another job. What they are doing isn't right and I hope she gets the raise but unfortunately an employer can do whatever they want to within the law. They know that there is a potential employee somewhere out there that will do the job's duties for what they are willing to pay. I'm not sure I would want to work for someone who would promote and give a bigger workload without a raise. It sounds like they don't value the employees that line their pockets.

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        #18
        Originally posted by tmurray View Post
        It depends on expected workload for me. If she would potentially get a 10% raise and converted to salary but she would start working 45 hours a week rather than 40, then she's actually better off staying hourly as that is an 11% increase in hours.

        On the surface, I would expect an increase in comp though and would be disappointed just as you are.
        My thoughts exactly. Theres been tons of times in my past I wished I were still on hourly pay instead of salary purely due to the excessive amount of overtime pay I missed out on

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          #19
          Maybe the best way to make lemonade out of these lemons is to take the job for a while and gain the experience at the higher position. After a while, time to look for a new job at that higher level and get paid appropriately. The truth is that if you really want a noticeable raise you need to change employers. In my career experience, I've never gotten a raise as big as when I have changed employers. I'm loyal and don't change often, but my biggest pay increases have been from new employers.

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            #20
            Time to visit HR or Personnel Department. Sounds discriminatory unless the position is a probationary assignment, which should be spelled out in writing.

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              #21
              I see it happen a lot.

              I would love to be hourly, I'd be getting great overtime every week. Granted my schedule is super flexible and I can bs on the green screen a lot but still. I would love 10+ hours at time and a half

              Make sure her LinkedIn is up to date with the new job title and she clicks the box to let recruiters know she's open to offers.

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                #22
                Screw em. Find a better job and leave em no notice.


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                  #23
                  Originally posted by J Sweet View Post
                  Screw em. Find a better job and leave em no notice.


                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                  Always be careful taking this type of advice/attitude. As someone who hires a lot people, past references and employment histories are very important to me. Try to avoid throwing that match on any bridge if at all possible. Best of luck to all involved.

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                    #24
                    If she likes her job (employer), I'd tell her to sit tight for a few months and prove to them that she can handle the job, hopefully as good or better than the current coordinators.

                    After she proves herself, then she should go in and question them about the position vs. pay; especially since the company posts the pay ranges for all to see.

                    I've had much better luck going in with hard evidence, to prove a point, in situations like this. If she goes in guns-a-blazin, right off the bat, they might just send her home.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by hooligan View Post
                      I see it happen a lot.

                      I would love to be hourly, I'd be getting great overtime every week. Granted my schedule is super flexible and I can bs on the green screen a lot but still. I would love 10+ hours at time and a half

                      Make sure her LinkedIn is up to date with the new job title and she clicks the box to let recruiters know she's open to offers.
                      This is why I don't pay anyone hourly anymore.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Texastaxi View Post
                        If she likes her job (employer), I'd tell her to sit tight for a few months and prove to them that she can handle the job, hopefully as good or better than the current coordinators.

                        After she proves herself, then she should go in and question them about the position vs. pay; especially since the company posts the pay ranges for all to see.

                        I've had much better luck going in with hard evidence, to prove a point, in situations like this. If she goes in guns-a-blazin, right off the bat, they might just send her home.
                        X2 plus it will give here experience at that job so if they don't agree she should be paid more she can start looking for another job that pays more for that position.

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                          #27
                          While the way that went down would **** me off Id most likely give them two to three months to make it right. A month or two to prove myself, and a month for them to make the necessary scale changes. Then in no uncertain terms make my intentions known.

                          I somewhat just went through this with my company, but they asked me if I would help out at the field level due to one of my large customers forcing it upon us. I'm no stranger to hard work, and I've grown up at the field level. I knew what to expect, and knew that money most likely wouldn't be adjusted due to our current economy. BUT they made it very clear I was able to turn down any field job I didn't feel comfortable with, and I could say no at any time I wanted for any reason I wanted. I went from 40 hour weeks making **** good money, to working 70+ hour weeks making pennies. I did it for 3 months, and just last week my boss made it right with money for the long haul. Now it's back to the 40 hour weeks, and a pay raise that will far out last those 70 hour weeks I put in. All because I jumped in and never whined. I just did what had to be done, when it had to be done, and now we are in a much better standing with the customer. Our largest customer who does $10 million a year with us.

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                            #28
                            First off, I was taught to never ask for a raise. You'll get one when you've earned it.

                            Second, she needs to give it some time. Owners/management like to see if their decisions will pay off. If she's doing her job well, I'd imagine that raise will come in short time. If after a few months, I'd look elsewhere if she's not that tight with the company.

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                              #29
                              She needs to go in there and prove she can handle the responsibility and earn the pay raise. If she shows the ownership she is valuable by her actions and not title alone, they will want to pay her and retain her. Now if they told her she would get a raise then that's another story.

                              Bottom line tell her to treat it as if she owned the place and create value by her work. Otherwise she will be just another replaceable employee.

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                                #30
                                In her shoes now. Same title, same work and even completed training BEFORE those making more money.

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