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Originally posted by JoseyWales82 View PostI do the same with my packs too. 30L for the day stuff described(and some quick summer time overnighters). 65L for multi-day trips.
Seems like more of a "looks cool" then practicality. (Which I'm not against by any means) I mean why have molle webbing everywhere? to attach things? like what?
Just for the record, I think the tactical look is bad ***.Originally posted by JoseyWales82 View PostI agree they are cool packs. And versatile.
But when it comes to distance and weight distribution.....
The truth is, these things are functional. They are functional in ways your other packs are not. I know this because I own and use them too.
Lightweight packs are designed for specific gear. Packs made of Cordura 1000 and rely on heavy stiching and rigid framing are designed for different gear. I would never load up my osprey 45 with my loppers, makita tools, wire, and bolts and hump the mile to a new stand location... but have no problem stuffing a bag, clothes, alcohol stove, and freeze dried food in one.
Different tools for different things.
For heavy weight, I uses a suspension pack. But you wpuld be surprised to know how much weight you can tolerate with a simple backpack made to handle the weight from a stiching standpoint and proper loading.
And one final note... MOLLE is friggin awesome. Once you get familiar with its versatility... you will wish most things had MOLLE.
So... again... different tools for different jobs, and many of us are diverse in our outdoor endeavors.
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Originally posted by .270 View PostYes please fill me in on the 5.11 packs!!! Look good and affordable via Amazon but I know nothing about how to compare which packs are worth a dern.
Took it to Spain and was just the ok size for a under seat bag. I had it stuffed full which made it tight... loosely packed it was pefect. Fit my laptop, etc.
A 24 would be too big to get good compact loading and smaller I dont think you could get to high of a weight if you wanted to heavy ruck (30+)
But these are just my opinions based on my limited time doing this.
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Originally posted by SwampRabbit View PostYou know, I used to roll my eyes at "tacticool" stuff. But the truth is, alot of the tacticool labels are born out of the people who buy stuff for lools over function.
The truth is, these things are functional. They are functional in ways your other packs are not. I know this because I own and use them too.
Lightweight packs are designed for specific gear. Packs made of Cordura 1000 and rely on heavy stiching and rigid framing are designed for different gear. I would never load up my osprey 45 with my loppers, makita tools, wire, and bolts and hump the mile to a new stand location... but have no problem stuffing a bag, clothes, alcohol stove, and freeze dried food in one.
Different tools for different things.
For heavy weight, I uses a suspension pack. But you wpuld be surprised to know how much weight you can tolerate with a simple backpack made to handle the weight from a stiching standpoint and proper loading.
And one final note... MOLLE is friggin awesome. Once you get familiar with its versatility... you will wish most things had MOLLE.
So... again... different tools for different jobs, and many of us are diverse in our outdoor endeavors.
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Originally posted by JoseyWales82 View PostI really like the all the hiking and mileage that I see getting cranked out. I've read this thread and others like it from Swamprabbit in past. (The ruck fishing trip was awesome)
I'll never understand why people use a "rucksack" instead of a backpacking pack. The backpacks offered by osprey, Gregory, arcteryx, etc, are awesome. Years of research from thru hikers. Super lite and designed to minimize wear and tear on your body. So you are ready for the next day.
I guess I understand (or maybe I don't) that guys from the military want to use a product that they are familiar with. I understand that the "ruck" backpacks are made from a thicker material, hence maybe more reliable in the long run.(durability) But youre not getting shot at and its not a life or death situation if your pack gets a hole in it.(Osprey has a life time warranty, small hole, send it back)
So I guess my questions is......
Why not use the best gear available for your task?
My GORUCK ruck is very heavy duty, with handles that I can use it to swing the weight for a workout. Thrusters, ruck swings like a kettle bell, etc.
I started with a used Marine Corp ruck from eBay and its pretty good, but nothing compared to the construction and durability of a GORUCK product.
Jmho.
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Originally posted by JoseyWales82 View PostOk, Agreed. I can see the reasoning when carry loppers and heavy tools. This need for thicker material makes sense. I especially like the ruck that allows for the deer carcass that someone posted earlier.Last edited by flatlander; 01-15-2018, 10:39 PM.
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