Franklin Coverup and Pizza Gate? Need info.

[Traildust]

Great topic. Discuss.

[Razorback01]

No idea, but maybe now it won't derail the other thread. In for the specifics.

[Flex]

Here we go..that's turned into a wormhole to jump into.

Amazing that the MSM basically ignored it, then reported skewed garbage. Plenty of reading on it. You'll form a better understanding if you search the interwebz yourself a few hours than get skewed opinions.

It's another what I consider huge thing, involving several big $ players and gov affiliated people in and around DC.

Short version of what I've gathered.

Mostly based off of a prostitution ring and false front businesses, some of the "workers" for lack of a better term were also under age. The FBI is investigating.

They were using lots of code words, encrypted messages, etc. To arrange call girls, parties, escorts, stuff like that.

So much disinformation and rumors have been spread that it's been called a hoax all the way to the biggest pedophile network scandal ever. It's hard to tell what is what, do some research make up your own mind. There's some interesting reading and podcasts. Usually the truth is somewhere around the middle. And depends on what you want to believe when you find things.

Joe rogan talked about it and did a good job keeping Alex Jones almost on topic on his podcast a while back. Good place to start.

I'm not a tin foil hat, NWO believer, but I do love history. And am fascinated by how different accounts of the same event can be. Fun way to waste some time.

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[monsterspike]

spirit cooking aint no bbq.

[ladrones]

Usually hear the term pizzagate associated with the Podesta brothers.

[Neck]

It's like carving a turkey with OJ Simpson on Thanksgiving Day 1976 while watching the Bills lose to the Lions 27 to 14 even though The Juice ran for 273 yards and a pair of touchdowns. But then you remember you are carving a turkey with OJ Simpson so how can you be watching him carry the rock on the idiot box? Then it hits you. It isn't Thanksgiving Day, that wasn't a turkey and that wasn't OJ Simpson. The gloves fit. Stop poking the crazy.

[Hank Hill]

I think most of it is baseless, without merit, and rooted solely in rumor and innuendo. That being said, there is plenty of precedent that Russia's SVR RF & Israel's Mossad (foreign intelligence agencies) have used planted evidence and framed politicians for sex crimes and other illegal activity in order to gain leverage over them. I.E., go out to dinner with a foreign diplomat, get drugged and wake up in a hotel room with planted evidence of a crime. I'm more inclined to take that as truth than a global satanic conspiracy of sex slavery being run out of a pizza parlour.

[systemnt]

My favorite color is potato.

[monsterspike]

jimmy savile and jeffery epstein are just misunderstood gents. i think the queen her family and the clintons having friends like these is totally normal.

in fact, everyone should have an infant craving pedo in their circle of friends.

[Chew]

If you put pineapple on your pizza, you deserve what you get.

[CRM_95]

I had never heard of it until the other thread. A quick google search brought me up to speed. Weird stuff. Unfortunately it wouldn't surprise me if there was some truth to it. But I'm not making a tin foil hat just yet either.

[Traildust]

If you put pineapple on your pizza, you deserve what you get.

Sir.....have you tried that with bacon?

[Hank Hill]

jimmy savile and jeffery epstein are just misunderstood gents. i think the queen her family and the clintons having friends like these is totally normal.

in fact, everyone should have an infant craving pedo in their circle of friends.

Correlation =/= causation. Ever know someone that committed a crime you didn't think they were capable of? Often the most monstrous people operate in plain sight (see: Jerry Sandusky), and people that were associated with them either didn't know or didn't want to believe it to be true. Sociopaths can carry these type of double lives often without ever getting caught - the guilty by association pitchfork mob doesn't want to hear it, but often associates of a criminal - especially a secretive high profile criminal - have no idea of what's going on behind the scenes.

Jeff Epstein is a billionaire, and it's no surprise that he has hob nobbed with politicians and other powerful people. Does that make everyone he knows guilty of his crimes? I don't think so. I find it much more likely that those that knew him had no idea and if they had they would want nothing to do with him. As a politician it would do you no favors to be mentioned in the same breath so why risk it?

Don't let logic get in the way of a good fantasy though.

[monsterspike]

Correlation =/= causation. Ever know someone that committed a crime you didn't think they were capable of? Often the most monstrous people operate in plain sight (see: Jerry Sandusky), and people that were associated with them either didn't know or didn't want to believe it to be true. Sociopaths can carry these type of double lives often without ever getting caught - the guilty by association pitchfork mob doesn't want to hear it, but often associates of a criminal - especially a secretive high profile criminal - have no idea of what's going on behind the scenes.

Jeff Epstein is a billionaire, and it's no surprise that he has hob nobbed with politicians and other powerful people. Does that make everyone he knows guilty of his crimes? I don't think so. I find it much more likely that those that knew him had no idea and if they had they would want nothing to do with him. As a politician it would do you no favors to be mentioned in the same breath so why risk it?

Don't let logic get in the way of a good fantasy though.

yeah it would surprise me if one of my friends was a serial pedo. of course if i traveled to his island dozens of times and was also accused multiple times of rape myself, i expect it might look bad....

if i gave knighthood to a pedo, that was accused of HUNDREDS of child rapes, id be pretty disappointed in my decision.

but enough facts here. we should focus on your fantasy of it all being fantasy.

[Hank Hill]

You're conflating truth with rumor. The Clintons associated with Epstein which to say that could be suspicious is certainly fair but it is far from a smoking gun.

Saville was indeed knighted, but he was also a treasured national celebrity at the time, the entire country loved him, which in part was why he was able to gain access to so many victims - and in equal measure, why people were hesitant to believe the accusations. The proof never came to light until after he died. And I'm sure the Queen actually is disappointed with her decision.