LovinTxHuntin, I think people are missing your point. I think it is pretty crappy the guy is pulling this on you. It is a shame that people lack the integrity to abide by their agreements. He is showing a lack of that to just dump this on you. Maybe he is having some financial issues?? The guy should have at least sit down with yall and talked it over. Yes, I do agree you have a pretty good deal as far as price goes, and yes, unfortunately, the guy could lease it out for a lot more. Guess its up to you to decide if you are willing to lease from someone who is showing a lack of integrity. My question would be, is he going to pull something else on you in the future? Who knows, maybe he has an offer on the place and is looking at ways to chase you off.
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Originally posted by acearrow View PostLovinTxHuntin, I think people are missing your point. I think it is pretty crappy the guy is pulling this on you. It is a shame that people lack the integrity to abide by their agreements. He is showing a lack of that to just dump this on you. Maybe he is having some financial issues?? The guy should have at least sit down with yall and talked it over. Yes, I do agree you have a pretty good deal as far as price goes, and yes, unfortunately, the guy could lease it out for a lot more. Guess its up to you to decide if you are willing to lease from someone who is showing a lack of integrity. My question would be, is he going to pull something else on you in the future? Who knows, maybe he has an offer on the place and is looking at ways to chase you off.
And I wouldn't be too quick on sayin somebody else will pay it. My brother went on a dig a couple months ago and said the LO's were begging for somebody to lease their places, thousands of acres, and nobody hunting them.
We are looking into a couple places now!!
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Originally posted by RogueSamurai View PostDepends on how good it is, etc. He might have to eat it for a while.
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Originally posted by Farmdog View PostNever argue over electricity or water...pony up. Everyone knows how fast he could lease it out to someone for more money. I understand your frustration though. Its a personal choice to decide how much bs to put up with. I myself dont put up with much either
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Originally posted by acearrow View PostLovinTxHuntin, I think people are missing your point. I think it is pretty crappy the guy is pulling this on you. It is a shame that people lack the integrity to abide by their agreements. He is showing a lack of that to just dump this on you. Maybe he is having some financial issues?? The guy should have at least sit down with yall and talked it over. Yes, I do agree you have a pretty good deal as far as price goes, and yes, unfortunately, the guy could lease it out for a lot more. Guess its up to you to decide if you are willing to lease from someone who is showing a lack of integrity. My question would be, is he going to pull something else on you in the future? Who knows, maybe he has an offer on the place and is looking at ways to chase you off.
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Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View PostI get where you're coming from but in the deer lease bidniss, elec and water is a staple. That's just smart.
(ie Farms, ranches,etc) and the necessities some hunters require are definitely not a 'staple' to the landowners in terms of getting their property leased.
Amenities are selling points, but not requirements for leasing.
They aren't making more land.
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Buy your own land. Lease it out to a group of dumb hunters to make the payments. Load it up with sheep and goats that the hunters feed for you because you require them to feed year around. Hunt all their feeders and setups during the week when they are not there. Problem solved! Oh, and there's more money in raising goats and sheep than there are cattle.
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Originally posted by systemnt View PostMost deer leases are simple supplemental income to the property they are on.
(ie Farms, ranches,etc) and the necessities some hunters require are definitely not a 'staple' to the landowners in terms of getting their property leased.
Amenities are selling points, but not requirements for leasing.
They aren't making more land.
I dont get why a person requires elec. and water.
If i had to find another lease i would not sign anything that required me to pay for elec. or water because i would not use any. And I certainly be fine to find a place that did not provide either.
Id never pay for improvements to another man place ( like dig or repair a well)
Id help with the labor on any project but im not paying for it.
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Originally posted by systemnt View PostPlenty of people have no problem with no water/electric leases.. it will be gone quick for whatever the guy wants them to pay.
Electricity is a little harder to do without in my opinion. I would have tried to negotiate with the owner to leave the electricity in his name for the lower rate and just raise the price of the lease to cover it. Then just fix the well only if it's worth it to you. If not, haul in water. No big deal.
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Originally posted by flywise View PostAgreed
I dont get why a person requires elec. and water.
If i had to find another lease i would not sign anything that required me to pay for elec. or water because i would not use any. And I certainly be fine to find a place that did not provide either.
Id never pay for improvements to another man place ( like dig or repair a well)
Id help with the labor on any project but im not paying for it.
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you are getting testy.
There are a lot of TBHers that do fresh water tanks on their setups...you know this...you've been around long enough to read their threads both in the campfire and DIY...
they certainly don't 'sell their success short'... by any means.
Man.. when did hunting become so wussified that people get ****** off when they cant take a shower in air conditioning?
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Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View PostIf you want to work on your place in the summer and sweat your butt off for days on end with no shower, that's your deal. I care more about my bowhunting than that. I said it was a staple. I didn't say someone wouldn't lease a piece of unimproved property but lacking those "amenities" lowers the value in my eyes. As much as it costs to hunt and purchase equipment and feed, I'm not going to sell my success short by not showering and neglecting basic needs. If you guys want that, sounds like there's a place in New Braunfels that just opened up.
You can want in one hand and.........
Also, I'd like to hear the other side of this story. If you had agreements then he was wrong for breaking them. But lets face it, verbal agreements now a days are worth the paper you use to wipe with.
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Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View PostIf you want to work on your place in the summer and sweat your butt off for days on end with no shower, that's your deal. I care more about my bowhunting than that. I said it was a staple. I didn't say someone wouldn't lease a piece of unimproved property but lacking those "amenities" lowers the value in my eyes. As much as it costs to hunt and purchase equipment and feed, I'm not going to sell my success short by not showering and neglecting basic needs. If you guys want that, sounds like there's a place in New Braunfels that just opened up.
There are many options. Most a lot cheaper that paying another mans water/ elec. bills
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Originally posted by systemnt View Postyou are getting testy.
There are a lot of TBHers that do fresh water tanks on their setups...you know this...you've been around long enough to read their threads both in the campfire and DIY...
they certainly don't 'sell their success short'... by any means.
Man.. when did hunting become so wussified that people get ****** off when they cant take a shower in air conditioning?
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