CWD update. Better pay attention to this one!

[bulltx50]

TPW wants to stop hunting? Politically motivated? I think I am at a loss for words due to those statements.

[texasdeerhunter]

TPW isn't loosing money to east texas deer hunting so they won't be coming after you. But I can assure you if they test for it they will find it. It's always been here and will be here after we are long gone.

This all started when breeders and deer hunting ranches started taking hunters from tpw controlled land. If you go back many many year ago, you would lease from tpw. Noone would lease from them anymore so they got ****** and started this fake news.

Ask the Patteresons if any amount of money will give them back what they lost? This is all political.

This sounds like a stretch.....

[bulltx50]

A big stretch.......

[bukkskin]

So which one existed first? The Chicken(CWD in the pens) or the Egg(CWD in free range deer)??

LMAO

[HdFilmmaker]

This sounds like a stretch.....

I don't care if it's a big stretch or a little stretch, it's still the truth. When TPW is asked point blank to tell how many deer they've tested they will say they are over their projected numbers. When you make them give you those numbers it's not even 5% of what they wanted to test. It was easy for them to go after breeders untill this free range happened. You need to wake up if you think this isn't political and that tpw doesn't have an anti-hunters agenda.

Ok I'm typing this slow so you'll understand..... What will happen when they deem all free range and breed land no good for deer? How much will those whitetails be worth then? Hmmmm I saw 4 men cull 8 does friday from a ranch in Media county that can't take the meat back home with them??? How much is that hunt worth now? How much is that land owner going to make now? Make TPW prove they have a way to get rid of it? Why is it after ALL these years they just now tested a free range deer and it popped positive?

So you go ahead and kill that little deer you have on your land and then see if you can take it down the road too your home to eat it. Harvesting for meat? Isn't that the number one reason we hunt? Or thats what we tell the petas it is....

[Uncle Saggy]

Why can't you make a statement without starting by taking a shot at someone's intelligence?

Bet you don't talk that way in a face to face discussion

[txwhitetail]

TPW isn't loosing money to east texas deer hunting so they won't be coming after you. But I can assure you if they test for it they will find it. It's always been here and will be here after we are long gone.

This all started when breeders and deer hunting ranches started taking hunters from tpw controlled land. If you go back many many year ago, you would lease from tpw. Noone would lease from them anymore so they got ****** and started this fake news.

Ask the Patteresons if any amount of money will give them back what they lost? This is all political.

Still running a special on tin foil hats in the classifieds section.

[bulltx50]

I guess my two degrees in biology, the fact I have worked 25 plus years in this business means I need to slow down to understand these statements. Headline on the news, "TPW wants to take away your hunting rights". "TPW planted CWD, coerced positive test results." Yes I am being sarcastic because I am not smart enough to buy into a conspiracy theory. I have followed this thread from the beginning and something told me no good would come from it; because we are not capable of carrying on a conversation, debate etc... without attacks on one another.

[trophyhunter]

Sadly.......we always slip off the tracks. To bring it back to center:

A few FACTS:

1. We DO NOT know how it got here or when it got here...but was first discovered and coined CWD in the 60s in Colorado.

2. We DO know when and where the first positive was found by species in TEXAS.
a. Free Range Mule Deer - Hudspeth County 2012
b. Captive Whitetail - Medina County 2015
c. Free Range Elk - Dallam County 2016
d. Free Range Whitetail - Medina County 2017

2.5. We DO know that TPWD handled the above cases VERY differently.

3. We DO know that voluntary free-range testing has been extremely LIMITED.

4. We DO know that captive testing rates are extremely HIGH and mandated.

5. We DO know that there is NO evidence of a deer actually dying from CWD in Texas.

6. We DO know that CWD positive tests negatively impact property values.

7. We DO know that NOBODY wants CWD on their property.

8. We DO know that CWD exists in free range and/or captive in about 50% of the country.

[Backwoods101]

Why can't you make a statement without starting by taking a shot at someone's intelligence?

Bet you don't talk that way in a face to face discussion

[txwhitetail]

Sadly.......we always slip off the tracks. To bring it back to center:

A few FACTS:

1. We DO NOT know how it got here or when it got here...but was first discovered and coined CWD in the 60s in Colorado.

2. We DO know when and where the first positive was found by species in TEXAS.
a. Free Range Mule Deer - Hudspeth County 2012
b. Captive Whitetail - Medina County 2015
c. Free Range Elk - Dallam County 2016
d. Free Range Whitetail - Medina County 2017

2.5. We DO know that TPWD handled the above cases VERY differently.

3. We DO know that voluntary free-range testing has been extremely LIMITED.

4. We DO know that captive testing rates are extremely HIGH and mandated.

5. We DO know that there is NO evidence of a deer actually dying from CWD in Texas.

6. We DO know that CWD positive tests negatively impact property values.

7. We DO know that NOBODY wants CWD on their property.

8. We DO know that CWD exists in free range and/or captive in about 50% of the country.

You left out the part about how TDA has handled this from the start...you threw tPwD in there figured you should fairly include TDA.

[trophyhunter]

You left out the part about how TDA has handled this from the start...you threw tPwD in there figured you should fairly include TDA.

You can't be serious???
Are you really serious?

The TDA, like the TWA, are simply organizations representing the views of their constituency and their overall general beliefs on property rights, hunting rights, etc.

TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, in conjunction with the TEXAS ANIMAL HEALTH COMMISSION, are the governing bodies.....and TPWD is the agency that is enacting mandates as a result of the developing CWD cases in Texas over the past 5 years.

I'm having a hard time connecting with the logic?

If you went in for a surgery and it was botched.......who's fault is it?

A. The surgeon in charge
B. Your mother-in-law, who was hoping for a particular outcome in the waiting room

The facts are the facts.......with or without the emotional perspectives from people that have $150 membership on either side. I've continuously supported this discussion with facts.

[txwhitetail]

You can't be serious???
Are you really serious?

The TDA, like the TWA, are simply organizations representing the views of their constituency and their overall general beliefs on property rights, hunting rights, etc.

TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, in conjunction with the TEXAS ANIMAL HEALTH COMMISSION, are the governing bodies.....and TPWD is the agency that is enacting mandates as a result of the developing CWD cases in Texas over the past 5 years.

I'm having a hard time connecting with the logic?

If you went in for a surgery and it was botched.......who's fault is it?

A. The surgeon in charge
B. Your mother-in-law, who was hoping for a particular outcome in the waiting room

The facts are the facts.......with or without the emotional perspectives from people that have $150 membership on either side. I've continuously supported this discussion with facts.

Hey just thought you should include the TDA temper tantrum response that did help the situation ANY. Don't shoot the truth messenger! lol

[bakin7005]

Somebody killed a 1 1/2 yo deer???? Thats BS!

[txwhitetail]

Somebody killed a 1 1/2 yo deer???? Thats BS!

It was also a SPIKE!