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    How many criminals/thugs make a dry run?

    There is a valid reason I'm asking of course. Caught two guys in the dark the other night planning something. The passenger trespassed on my property. It's clearly posted. He had a tiny flashlight and was carefully moving about and making note of things with his light. It sure appeared to me what he and the other were doing was scoping things out ahead of time. I was not armed at that moment and held off on confronting them and just observed. They took off in a hurry. Burglaries in the area are numerous.

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    "Casing the joint" is one of the key steps to successful burglary

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      #3
      What do you think scared them off?? Or do you think they just left??

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        You need to go armed at all times! If you see something out of the ordinary, especially at night, ARM YOURSELF!

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          #5
          Go armed always !

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            #6
            Originally posted by Pedernal View Post
            What do you think scared them off?? Or do you think they just left??
            I think the driver spotted my silhouette in the dark and told the other guy to get in quick.

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              Originally posted by Flint knapper View Post
              You need to go armed at all times! If you see something out of the ordinary, especially at night, ARM YOURSELF!
              I grabbed something right after that and informed the appropriate people. There is more I'd like to say on what I suspect it may be about, but shouldn't online. I've been very vigilant for some time now.
              Last edited by Fishy; 10-28-2016, 07:38 AM.

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                I had a couple at my house one time I guess they thought no one was home but I saw some movement via shadow coming through a front window and when I went outside the guy was startled and started going on about selling magazines. I asked him where his clipboard and signup stuff was and he bolted to his buddies hoopty ride parked out front and they took off.

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                  I'm a security consultant and this sure appears to be two individuals conducting pre-event surveillance/reconnaissance. The slightly more sophisticated teams/individuals do this in some manner. It could be a quick drive by to see if anyone's home or be more significant with actual surveillance. It is at this stage that you want the crook to become apprehensive about the target and move on to an easier target. When I go to facilities to conduct security vulnerability assessments (SVA) I have to explain to companies that yes fences and locks, as well as other security measures, are easily defeated they are a deterrent and delaying feature. CCTV cameras are only good at detecting if someone or AI is monitoring but considering the whole multi-layered system a sophisticated adversary will most likely move on unless there is something they want and can only get at the target.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by More Liberty View Post
                    I'm a security consultant and this sure appears to be two individuals conducting pre-event surveillance/reconnaissance. The slightly more sophisticated teams/individuals do this in some manner. It could be a quick drive by to see if anyone's home or be more significant with actual surveillance. It is at this stage that you want the crook to become apprehensive about the target and move on to an easier target. When I go to facilities to conduct security vulnerability assessments (SVA) I have to explain to companies that yes fences and locks, as well as other security measures, are easily defeated they are a deterrent and delaying feature. CCTV cameras are only good at detecting if someone or AI is monitoring but considering the whole multi-layered system a sophisticated adversary will most likely move on unless there is something they want and can only get at the target.
                    The way the driver waited for a family member of mine to pull out and drive out of sight before he then backed up, sure got my attention right away. First thing the passenger did after getting out was approach my neighbor's mailbox. He used the tiny light to try and find a house number. It was immediately after that, that he proceeded onto my property to examine things. Sure looked like they were studying locations and fixed items for the purpose of returning or forwarding the info. Everything I observed was alarming.

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                      Was it a big fat long blonde haired dude with a beard, sunglasses, and all kinds of crap strapped to him with a big boobed blondish woman with stiletto fingernails?

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                        Originally posted by More Liberty View Post
                        I'm a security consultant and this sure appears to be two individuals conducting pre-event surveillance/reconnaissance. The slightly more sophisticated teams/individuals do this in some manner. It could be a quick drive by to see if anyone's home or be more significant with actual surveillance. It is at this stage that you want the crook to become apprehensive about the target and move on to an easier target. When I go to facilities to conduct security vulnerability assessments (SVA) I have to explain to companies that yes fences and locks, as well as other security measures, are easily defeated they are a deterrent and delaying feature. CCTV cameras are only good at detecting if someone or AI is monitoring but considering the whole multi-layered system a sophisticated adversary will most likely move on unless there is something they want and can only get at the target.
                        Not to derail the thread but I have a question for you.
                        I live out in the country but close to a couple of really trashy nieghborhoods.
                        Lots of petty crime. Most everyone has problems with folks breaking into their barns and stealing pretty much anything they can haul off.

                        My dog bites, She is good at it.

                        Nobody bothers us or our stuff

                        Why would they not just shoot the dog and steal whatever?
                        The meanest dog in the world is no match for a .22

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by systemnt View Post
                          Was it a big fat long blonde haired dude with a beard, sunglasses, and all kinds of crap strapped to him with a big boobed blondish woman with stiletto fingernails?
                          No. . Two African American guys.

                          Who would those blondes happen to be?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fishy View Post
                            The way the driver waited for a family member of mine to pull out and drive out of sight before he then backed up, sure got my attention right away. First thing the passenger did after getting out was approach my neighbor's mailbox. He used the tiny light to try and find a house number. It was immediately after that, that he proceeded onto my property to examine things. Sure looked like they were studying locations and fixed items for the purpose of returning or forwarding the info. Everything I observed was alarming.
                            Not that you are late on payment but repo's happen like this as well.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Buff View Post
                              Not to derail the thread but I have a question for you.
                              I live out in the country but close to a couple of really trashy nieghborhoods.
                              Lots of petty crime. Most everyone has problems with folks breaking into their barns and stealing pretty much anything they can haul off.

                              My dog bites, She is good at it.

                              Nobody bothers us or our stuff

                              Why would they not just shoot the dog and steal whatever?
                              The meanest dog in the world is no match for a .22
                              I'm not a LEO, but once you use a firearm in the commission of a crime it changes from burglary to something else more substantial.

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