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    Consistent tail high paper tear.

    Trying to set up a new bow, Hoyt AlphaMax 32 set at 60 lbs. Have the Hostage rest, 25 inch Beamans. Have tried the 400s and 500s. Shooting a release off the string I can move nocking point and rest all over the place (up and down) and still get a high paper tear at three yards. Broadheads hit six or so inches lower than field points which matches the paper tear. Anybody got any ideas?

    #2
    Make sure the vanes are not hitting on the way out.

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      #3
      Here's a good little tuning guide....Hope it helps you out.

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        #4
        Sorry wrong one...Give me a minute...

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          #5
          Check your timing. Sounds like the top cam is firing a little before the bottom. I know what Hoyt says, but check it anyway. Also, it could be the rest itself kicking up the arrow. Too stiff of bristles? Try a different rest and see what that does for ya. Good luck.

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            #6
            It won't let me put the other tuning guide up there, says it is too large....Pm me your e-mail and I will send it that way...

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              #7
              rickytee55@comcast.net

              I have rotated nocks 'till I'm blue in the face trying to make sure there's no contact. Put on an old school Quiktune 750, the one with the two metal flat prongs that hold the arrow vertically and horizontally and still got the high paper tear. Have not checked cam timing since it's brand new but may have to go there. Still questioning arrow spine. One chart I have says a high paper tear is the result of too weak an arrow but the Beaman charts go the other way, calling for a weaker arrow, for my poundage and arrow length. The bow is real purty. Wish I could get a bullet hole out of it.

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                #8
                You probably have your knock too high. A high tear in my opinion is one of the easiest to remedy.start off about 1/8" high of horizontal and then go from there. By horizonatal I mean at full draw. your arrows are fine. Not an expert but I hope it helps. Do a google for tying knocks on, I haven't used a brass knock in years. when you tye your knock on you can just twist them up or down as needed. That is if you have serving string on hand.
                Last edited by holepuncher; 11-13-2008, 07:17 PM.

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                  #9
                  I read your post again, backoff to between 5 & 6 yards and check it out. like I said I'm no expert but three yards isn't very far away from the bow with the force draw curve newer bows are producing.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bowhuntin_Toona View Post
                    Check your timing. Sounds like the top cam is firing a little before the bottom. I know what Hoyt says, but check it anyway. Also, it could be the rest itself kicking up the arrow. Too stiff of bristles? Try a different rest and see what that does for ya. Good luck.
                    Actually timing could be out either way, but I agree, could be a timing issue.
                    A weak spine is also a possibility, so just grab a stiff arrow and shoot to check, stiff rarely causes problems.
                    While I bleed Bowtech blood , I don't really like the Hostage rest, bristles are pretty stiff and if nock travel is not pretty stright, the arrow will ramp up causing your high tear.
                    These are the three potential problems I would address.

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                      #11
                      Was hoping you'd chime in, Rocky. Plan to try a different spine tomorrow. Am not all touchy-feely about the Hostage either, bristles are already starting to wear, but just can't embrace tying a cord to a cord with a dropaway. Too many .... well... cords. I'm old.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ricky T View Post
                        Was hoping you'd chime in, Rocky. Plan to try a different spine tomorrow. Am not all touchy-feely about the Hostage either, bristles are already starting to wear, but just can't embrace tying a cord to a cord with a dropaway. Too many .... well... cords. I'm old.
                        Bodoodle Pro-Lite, or the dreaded WB.
                        WB's have been redesigned, and I promise they will shoot as good as we can shoot in a hunting situation.

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                          #13
                          Rocky, you got a dropaway you like???

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                            #14
                            I've tested nearly all, and have not found one that I'd put on my bow.
                            As far as setup, the Vapor Trail LimbDriver is easiest.
                            I shoot a BODOODLE PRO-LITE on my primary bow, and a WB on my backup, grab it and go pig hunting bow.
                            Something about those cords.

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                              #15
                              RickyT, I do all problem solving with the Pro-Lite to eliminate the rest from the equation.
                              Once I've fixed spine and timing problems, I install the rest of choice and if it shoots well I'm good to go.
                              The ONLY issue with the Pro-Lite, is on a hard back wall cam and a hard draw, you can bounce the arrow off the rest until you get used to making a cleaner draw.

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