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    Lead poisoned venison.

    While talking to one of the relatives who doesn't eat "any food with a face" I mentioned that I was working rather hard with my bow this year so that I could hunt with it in 2017. After first being chastised for eating meat that is "raised in a closed and fenced off environment just for the pleasure of blood thirsty cannibals" I was commended on at least not eating meat that is "most certainly poisoned with lead from the shotguns used to kill it".

    I sometimes wonder where in the heck people get these kinds of ideas.

    #2
    Relative needs the Veggie Tales series to put a face on veggies.

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      #3
      Don't eat food with a face?? Haven't they ever seen "Veggie Tales??"

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        #4
        Originally posted by Junkers88 View Post
        While talking to one of the relatives who doesn't eat "any food with a face" I mentioned that I was working rather hard with my bow this year so that I could hunt with it in 2017. After first being chastised for eating meat that is "raised in a closed and fenced off environment just for the pleasure of blood thirsty cannibals" I was commended on at least not eating meat that is "most certainly poisoned with lead from the shotguns used to kill it".

        I sometimes wonder where in the heck people get these kinds of ideas.
        Dumdazzed city folk who survive on tofu deserve no respect. Why do you even talk to them ?

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          #5
          theres some strange folks out there

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            #6
            Originally posted by d_e_smith View Post
            Relative needs the Veggie Tales series to put a face on veggies.
            Hahahaha great minds think alike.

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              #7
              LOL...what a douc&ebag.

              There is a great scientific theory backed up my evidence that human grew smarter and larger brains once we started eating meat. http://www.npr.org/2010/08/02/128849...ade-us-smarter


              Our earliest ancestors ate their food raw — fruit, leaves, maybe some nuts. When they ventured down onto land, they added things like underground tubers, roots and berries.

              It wasn't a very high-calorie diet, so to get the energy you needed, you had to eat a lot and have a big gut to digest it all. But having a big gut has its drawbacks.

              "You can't have a large brain and big guts at the same time," explains Leslie Aiello, an anthropologist and director of the Wenner-Gren Foundation in New York City, which funds research on evolution. Digestion, she says, was the energy-hog of our primate ancestor's body. The brain was the poor stepsister who got the leftovers.

              Until, that is, we discovered meat.

              "What we think is that this dietary change around 2.3 million years ago was one of the major significant factors in the evolution of our own species," Aiello says.

              That period is when cut marks on animal bones appeared — not a predator's tooth marks, but incisions that could have been made only by a sharp tool. That's one sign of our carnivorous conversion. But Aiello's favorite clue is somewhat ickier — it's a tapeworm. "The closest relative of human tapeworms are tapeworms that affect African hyenas and wild dogs," she says.

              So sometime in our evolutionary history, she explains, "we actually shared saliva with wild dogs and hyenas." That would have happened if, say, we were scavenging on the same carcass that hyenas were.

              But dining with dogs was worth it. Meat is packed with lots of calories and fat. Our brain — which uses about 20 times as much energy as the equivalent amount of muscle — piped up and said, "Please, sir, I want some more."

              Carving Up The Diet

              As we got more, our guts shrank because we didn't need a giant vegetable processor any more. Our bodies could spend more energy on other things like building a bigger brain. Sorry, vegetarians, but eating meat apparently made our ancestors smarter — smart enough to make better tools, which in turn led to other changes, says Aiello.

              "If you look in your dog's mouth and cat's mouth, and open up your own mouth, our teeth are quite different," she says. "What allows us to do what a cat or dog can do are tools."

              Tools meant we didn't need big sharp teeth like other predators. Tools even made vegetable matter easier to deal with. As anthropologist Shara Bailey at New York University says, they were like "external" teeth.

              "Your teeth are really for processing food, of course, but if you do all the food processing out here," she says, gesturing with her hands, "if you are grinding things, then there is less pressure for your teeth to pick up the slack."

              Our teeth, jaws and mouth changed as well as our gut.

              Meat is packed with lots of calories and fat.

              But adding raw meat to our diet doesn't tell the whole food story, according to anthropologist Richard Wrangham. Wrangham invited me to his apartment at Harvard University to explain what he believes is the real secret to being human. All I had to do was bring the groceries, which meant a steak — which I thought could fill in for wildebeest or antelope — and a turnip, a mango, some peanuts and potatoes.

              As we slice up the turnip and put the potatoes in a pot, Wrangham explains that even after we started eating meat, raw food just didn't pack the energy to build the big-brained, small-toothed modern human. He cites research that showed that people on a raw food diet, including meat and oil, lost a lot of weight. Many said they felt better, but also experienced chronic energy deficiency. And half the women in the experiment stopped menstruating.

              It's not as if raw food isn't nutritious; it's just harder for the body to get at the nutrition.

              Wrangham urges me to try some raw turnip. Not too bad, but hardly enough to get the juices flowing. "They've got a tremendous amount of caloric energy in them," he says. "The problem is that it's in the form of starch, which unless you cook it, does not give you very much."

              Then there's all the chewing that raw food requires. Chimps, for example, sometimes chew for six hours a day. That actually consumes a lot of energy.

              "Plato said if we were regular animals, you know, we wouldn't have time to write poetry," Wrangham jokes. "You know, he was right."

              One solution might have been to pound food, especially meat — like the steak I brought. "If our ancestors had used stones to mash the meat like this," Wrangham says as he demonstrates with a wooden mallet, "then it would have reduced the difficulty they would have had in digesting it."

              But pounding isn't as good as cooking that steak, says Wrangham. And cooking is what he thinks really changed our modern body. Someone discovered fire — no one knows exactly when — and then someone got around to putting steak and veggies on the barbeque. And people said, "Hey, let's do that again."

              Besides better taste, cooked food had other benefits — cooking killed some pathogens on food.

              But cooking also altered the meat itself. It breaks up the long protein chains, and that makes them easier for stomach enzymes to digest. "The second thing is very clear," Wrangham adds, "and that is the muscle, which is made of protein, is wrapped up like a sausage in a skin, and the skin is collagen, connective tissue. And that collagen is very hard to digest. But if you heat it, it turns to jelly."

              As for starchy foods like turnips, cooking gelatinizes the tough starch granules and makes them easier to digest too. Even just softening food — which cooking does — makes it more digestible. In the end, you get more energy out of the food.

              Yes, cooking can damage some good things in raw food, like vitamins. But Wrangham argues that what's gained by cooking far outweighs the losses.

              As I cut into my steak (Wrangham is a vegetarian; he settles for the mango and potatoes), Wrangham explains that cooking also led to some of the finer elements of human behavior: it encourages people to share labor; it brings families and communities together at the end of the day and encourages conversation and story-telling — all very human activities.

              "Ultimately, of course, what makes us intellectually human is our brain," he says. "And I think that comes from having the highest quality of food in the animal kingdom, and that's because we cook."

              So, as the Neanderthals liked to say around the campfire: bon appetit.

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                #8
                That is funny.

                I will say this though, besides birds, I have moved away from using a shotgun for hunting small game. I'd rather snipe a squirrel or rabbit than pepper them with bb's. I got tired of finding lead pellets when eating squirrel.

                I don't think I'd enjoy duck hunting... the thought of biting down on a steel bb doesn't sound like it would be enjoyable

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                  #9
                  I learned a long time ago to ignore the tomato kissing Bambi lovers. They get their "ideas" from the internet.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SwampRabbit View Post
                    That is funny.

                    I will say this though, besides birds, I have moved away from using a shotgun for hunting small game. I'd rather snipe a squirrel or rabbit than pepper them with bb's. I got tired of finding lead pellets when eating squirrel.

                    I don't think I'd enjoy duck hunting... the thought of biting down on a steel bb doesn't sound like it would be enjoyable
                    Good point...very good.

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                      #11
                      Haha just tell him you are trying to keep all the animals from eating his food. Think of the mass murder of clover every fall!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by d_e_smith View Post
                        Relative needs the Veggie Tales series to put a face on veggies.
                        Oh this has got to happen! I'd totally forgotten about that movie.

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                          #13
                          I would venture to say that no person ever has gotten lead poisoning from a animal that has been shot with a rifle or shotgun

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                            #14
                            They gonna starve to death!

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                              #15
                              My wife is a vet and she wont eat any of it because it has deer AIDS. What the F is that?

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