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    Need a second (actually first) opinion from a vet

    You may remember that I pull dogs from the animal control, nurse ‘em up and then try to find them homes. I’ve gotten hooked up with a couple of good rescues so they have helped us place a ton of dogs – but I’m struggling with one I’m personally fostering.

    Stewie is about an 8 month old dog of the American Shelter Dog breed. We have had him on our home for about 3 months after he was owner surrendered ( I know it is cliché but all they cared about was if they could get the collar back). We haven’t had a lick of problems with him until he stopped eating this past Friday.

    It began Friday morning when I found that he had defecated in his kennel which never happens. It was a loose stool mixed with what I later determined was stomach bile. After he wouldn’t eat that morning I took him in to our vet whom I trust very much who told me he didn’t have a fever, and wasn’t sensitive to stomach palpation so it was probably something he ate. They were not able to retrieve enough stool for a sample so it seems like his system had been cleaned out by then.

    Over the weekend he hasn’t eaten more than a handful, and will drink water only sparingly. Also about 3 times a day he would spit up about a half cup of brownish, foul smelling stomach bile. He has not attempted to defecate even once since Friday so there has been no bearing down, and no stool – loose, bloody or otherwise. Other than not eating he doesn’t seem to feel that bad. He still gets up and walks around wagging his tail – he just has no interest in eating and although it is less frequent he will still occasionally spit up the brown bile.

    I took him back to the vet this morning and they still do not have a clue. They said to keep trying to get him to eat for 48 hours and then we may have to go for an ultrasound or something. The reason for the wait is that he does not show any real signs of an obstruction – no tenderness, no diarrhea, no bloating, and no attempts to defecate. Other than that they do not really know what is going on. I have had to give him sub–Q lactated ringers about 4 times.

    Has anyone ever had a dog present with these symptoms? Any ideas or suggestions? I’m really worried about him.

    #2
    What are you trying to feed him? Try some boiled chicken and rice and see if he will eat that.

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      #3
      No clue my friend. Not a vet, I do care for strays though. Every good stray/abandoned deserves a chance. Best wishes.


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        #4
        I would be VERY concerned about an obstruction. Vomiting with no stool is an ominous sign. He would need a xray/ultrasound to determine

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          #5
          Try rice to help settling his stomach......May need to take him to another vet for a 2nd opinion....

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            #6
            take him to another vet and get an xray or ultrasound done. IF it is an obstruction it can kill the intestine behind the obstruction in just a few days=dead dog. Get him checked.

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              #7
              Dropped him off at the Animal Hospital this morning for X-rays and all the available tests. He still won't eat but acts like he feels fine. He jumped over the dang baby gate last night.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Fooshman View Post
                What are you trying to feed him? Try some boiled chicken and rice and see if he will eat that.
                This^^^ My wife is a vet and most times with stomach issues this is the remedy. The need a very bland and tasteless diet for a week or so sounds like at this point. I would also suggest offering a cup or so at a time of Pedialyte. With vomiting and diarrhea, they need to replace those electrolytes just like we do.

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                  #9
                  Vet number 2 (I feel like I'm cheating) ran all the test she could (parvo, etc) and checked for obstructions and all were negative. She says she has seen this before when dogs have a bad stomach virus. She is keeping him overnight and giving him IVs to keep him hydrated. He still wont eat but has quit throwing up.

                  When I was feeding him I was trying soft dog food, Hill's prescription, and finally got him to eat about a handful of hamburger and rice.

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                    #10
                    I have had two dogs with similar symptoms. Stumped one Vet on dog #1 but 2nd Vet diagnosed it as Clostridum. Mine really didn't have the bad diarrhea but did have bad farts & bile from the mouth. Vet #2 walked in and actually guessed what is was from the smell of the dog. Vet had to keep dog for several days on IV but she was back to normal soon. Dog #2 showed same symptoms so she when in for the same treatment. Good luck with your pup.


                    Clostridial enterotoxicosis is an intestinal syndrome brought on by the Clostridium perfringens bacterium.

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                      #11
                      Guess what - it was an obstruction.

                      Vet 2 palpated his intestines and felt what she thought was impacted poop so she decided to put him on an IV and work on his hydration. Two days later he passed part of a plush toy about 5 inches long and rolled up to about the size of a golf ball.

                      He's 100% now but he never would have made it if we didn't take him back in. Thanks again for the advice ...


                      Now anyone need a dog?

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                        #12
                        I was going to say a stomach virus also.
                        Is he an outdoor dog? He may have eaten something outside that has upset his stomach. There are many good tasting plants that are harmful to dogs. Bamboo, weeds, bark, etc.

                        Please consider a better dog food. Try stuff from California Natural, Orijen, Back to Basics, Fromm to name a few.

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