I now "need" to kill coyotes

[wickll]

coyotes

I try to call at sunset and sunrise back to the sun mouth call will work fine dying rabbit back into a cedar or good cover and call them in I like calling in the daylight eliminates need for spotlight and you can see everything any movement and you can use anything for a decoy furry stuffed animal feather on a stick!

This works well. I have never killed a coyote by spotlight. The problem is that in most of the areas I have called, there were usually neighbors dogs in the vicinity. I never wanted to take a chance of mistaking a dog for a coyote in the spotlight. I have had good luck shooting early morning and late evening.

And there are actually studies which have shown that coyotes have a significant impact on deer populations. One was done in Lavaca and Dewitt Counties (probably in the early 90's) . In this study, something like 70% of the fawns monitored were killed by coyotes. Another study was done on the Rob and Besse Welder Foundation. The deer population increased dramatically after coyotes were removed. Not saying we should kill them all, but they do have an effect. And when they start killing livestock , IMO it is definitely time to try and thin the pack .

[breederbuck33]

I kill them any chance I get, but The MeatEater podcast was talking about studies done on coyotes and their populations. To briefly sum it up, often when you hear all the coyotes howling away at night, they are taking a census of what other packs are in the area. When they begin to notice less responses to their howls/calls, it triggers a response to produce larger litters in order to re-populate the area. The podcast went on to further say that coyotes do a good job of regulating their own numbers and typically won't over populate an area, and will reach a carrying capacity and cease to grow in numbers. Granted what we humans consider 'over populated with coyotes' likely doesn't translate to what the coyotes consider. That is just my summary of what the meateater podcast said- I still kill them when I can. First time I had heard those thoughts on coyotes, just passing them along.

I'm going to have to look this up.. This fascinates me so thanks for sharing!

[Tryton]

No matter what the studies say it seems like these are problem coyotes that need to be shot. Maybe the replacements will have more fear from humans and not mess with live stock.

[35remington]

To briefly sum it up, often when you hear all the coyotes howling away at night, they are taking a census of what other packs are in the area. When they begin to notice less responses to their howls/calls, it triggers a response to produce larger litters in order to re-populate the area.

If this is true, that's fascinating. How does a female coyote's body regulate the production of offspring?

[35remington]

Also, cajuntec, it's been since April that we heard from you. What ended up happening?

[Backwoods101]

Thank you for the offer. I may take you up on it.
All the best,
Glenn

Any luck? I didn't see it mentioned here but there is an awesome thread titled What I know about calling coyotes..

[wickll]

No matter what the studies say it seems like these are problem coyotes that need to be shot. Maybe the replacements will have more fear from humans and not mess with live stock.

Agreed.

[Tejas Wildlife]

X 1,000,000!

Dont overthink this. Kill them, kill every last one you see and go about your business.

Shoot them anytime you see them. We used to raise Mohair Goats in the 70's in West Texas till the coyotes put us out of business. I can honestly tell you that if a 160 B&C buck and a coyote are standing side by side, the buck is safe until I ground check that coyote. Besides, a coyote killed my granddaughters little dog last year and my feud with them will never end because of that!

You want a Red Lens for spotlighting because they can't see red light like white and other colors.

KAC

[texglocker]

Try contacting your county trapper and even if the landowner doesn't want their help they could give you some advice on what snares or specific calls they use. Our trappers mainly use snares along fence lines.

[cajuntec]

Also, cajuntec, it's been since April that we heard from you. What ended up happening?

Sorry I haven't updated this thread. I just realized there were recent replies to it.

Update:

The property owners and I set out a few nights to see if we could come across them. Nothing ever showed up while we were out there.

Then the donkey gave birth. We thought it would very soon, and she gave birth to a male. Cute little dude. They called him Banzai. Fitting name, because the dude is a Kamikaze. He comes flying in when you least expect it, and he doesn't realize how big he is. Tonight, he slammed into the side of my truck, just being the crazy ... uh.... "donkey" that he is. Between the two donkey's, we hadn't seen another coyote during the day - even in the late evening.

Fast forward to this years bow season. Right about 6am on opening day, the coyotes conducted morning roll call. Nearly jumped out of my skin when they lit off, as I wasn't expecting it. Some sounded very close, but I can't really tell. They could have been a mile away for all I know. But there were several from the sounds of it. The following day, they conducted roll call at the same time - you could almost set your watch to it. The following weekend, they didn't start howling until almost 7am, but it was a bunch of them. But we weren't seeing any on game cameras...

...Until a few weeks ago. This one has been showing up at just about the same time almost every night, walking the same trail that passes behind my feeder pen. I'm approximately 35 yards from him in the ladder stand I have set up on the other side of the feeder pen. I was hunting them with a .22-250, but I'm going to switch to my .357 Max Contender pistol and try to take him from the ladder stand. I have a cheap red lens spotlight at my house. I just need to figure out how I'm going to set it up.



All the best,
Glenn

[tex4k]

If you've never called or trapped them before, get some experienced help, educated coyotes are not something you want to deal with. People have been pushing that "the more you kill the more they produce" stuff for a while now. They took a little bit of truth and threw in a liberal dose of bunny hugger in that research imo. Coyotes like feral hogs like whitetail deer like cattle in a pasture, all have to be managed to keep the population within the carrying capacity of the land.

[Draco]

Get you a Fox Pro caller and start calling them. I talked my friend into getting one as he had a problem with them. He killed 6 in the first 3 days he owned it.

[kyle1974]

Yeah its pretty fascinating, the harder people try to kill them the more babies they make...

They can be rough on pets and livestock but pretty much harmless to people and have never been shown to have an effect on deer populations.

A ranch I hunt on has an extremely aggressive trapping program, and since this was started the fawn crop increased on average approximately 30%. I don't know where the studies have been done, but I know first hand it will make a difference. You are correct in the sense that this happens ever year, as you never get them all, and new animals filter back in from surrounding ranches.

They have a professional trapper come out in February after deer season is over and trap. It's not uncommon for them to pull off 300-400 coyotes off 7500 acres, along with a couple dozen bobcats, and a few badgers. This is in combination with berming up the area around the fencelines, and running snares the rest of the year.

it absolutely makes a difference if you're willing to work at it. going out with a red light at night and Shooting 5 or 6 in your spare time won't do a thing though in the grand scheme.

[Kurdawg]

Yep a couple of donkeys or adopt a few burrows and problem solved. I used help to run cattle on a place the burrows would surround a momma having a baby and even keep the other cows away, pretty neat. Not sure if they would chase the deer away also though.

[DTala]

The more you kill the more they make... :-D

not for a while they won't. KIll em all.