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[bphillips]

Thank you for all the responses. I believe I will move my pin up and maybe more to the front just a tad. Explain to me straight up the leg. Like straight up to mid depth of shoulder.? In that your going through the scapula or ?? I feel confident in my gear and set-up so I'm willing to try most anything to make my recovery better then the last.
Thanks again.

Straight up the back to middle of the leg. There is no bone there to punch through just muscle. A whitetail you can get away with a little further back but the exotics have less room for error. If you get into the habit of moving it a bit more forward you'll be set for everything though and never need to change

[Chance Love]

Explain to me straight up the leg. Like straight up to mid depth of shoulder.? In that your going through the scapula or ??

That is what a lot of people think that argue against this shot. If you hit scapula, you are too high. Where we are talking about, there is no bone in the shoulder. Some call it the "deadly V".

[JW]

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[Dry Bones]

Chance I had mistaken the skeleton. Pretty sad when I think about how many I have de-boned and cut up. Anyway. Thanks gents for the information. I looked up a chart and see the "Void" Almost mid shoulder. Not to get to carried away here but middle of the middle so to speak is still boneless. In other words the center of the shoulder mass, or as ya'll have said straight up the leg to mid point or just below in shoulder. It's all in the understanding of the anatomy of your game, and not your perceived anatomy that makes the difference.

[Dry Bones]

Ragin I was looking at the charts and missed your post, but that is exactly what I found. And you say the Exotics are just slightly more forward then the whitetail?

[JW]

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Ragin I was looking at the charts and missed your post, but that is exactly what I found. And you say the Exotics are just slightly more forward then the whitetail?

Barely to none. Most people think behind the shoulder is center lung on a deer and it's not. It's back center. And their lungs are lobed just like ours. If you cut the back of them it will not deflate the entire lung, just that lobe.

[GarGuy]

Good info on this thread from Chance, Ragin, BPhillips , etc. I shot really low for a few years because everyone preached that. Results suffered too. Now all that said, sometimes an animal will just keep going in totally unexplainable situations while deadly shot. A case in point was an ancient old ten pt I shot three years ago. I shot him from ground level at 8yds, quartering away. Arrow hit 1/3 way up the body about the third rib up and exited through the point of his off side shoulder. We found him the next day over a mile away and fresh dead. The onside lung was clipped at the back, off side lung center punched and a nice slice off the top of his heart which had sealed up and had a hard black crust on it.

I knew exactly where I hit him and was just stumped when Jooger jumped him 6 hours later and a half mile in. Things happen.

[critter69]

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[JW]

Good info on this thread from Chance, Ragin, BPhillips , etc. I shot really low for a few years because everyone preached that. Results suffered too. Now all that said, sometimes an animal will just keep going in totally unexplainable situations while deadly shot. A case in point was an ancient old ten pt I shot three years ago. I shot him from ground level at 8yds, quartering away. Arrow hit 1/3 way up the body about the third rib up and exited through the point of his off side shoulder. We found him the next day over a mile away and fresh dead. The onside lung was clipped at the back, off side lung center punched and a nice slice off the top of his heart which had sealed up and had a hard black crust on it.



I knew exactly where I hit him and was just stumped when Jooger jumped him 6 hours later and a half mile in. Things happen.

I do aim lower. But generally always hit 2-4 inches higher than where I was aiming. Especially on doe.

[JW]

http://www.packlunchraw.com/wp-conte...deer_bones.jpg

It amazes me the number of people that think that leg bone runs straight up and not on a 45 foreword.

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[Dry Bones]

Sadly I have always done my own processing, and I de-bone the whole carcass not just the prime cuts. Unfortunately I was one who assumed it was a straight line from backbone to leg. I also have extensive years with other livestock. Just get the dumb @$$ award I guess. Good stuff and will definitely change my shot situation.

[Lonestar88]

I can't remember who, but someone much wiser than me stated on here to shoot right up the leg in the shoulder. It gave me great results this season.

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[Lonestar88]

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[Chunky]

Lot's of good info here, and a topic that needs to be discussed often.

When I hunt at ground level, which I do a lot....I don't believe you can be too low, as long as you get in the chest cavity. I aim for the little pocket right behind the leg bone. I know what they are saying about going up the leg, but I also know that if I hit the big bones of the top of the leg or shoulder...I get no penetration. The good news is most of those animals are not seriously hurt and survive the wound.

When hunting off the ground I try to hit (a bit higher) so that the exit will be about just behind or bury into the off side shoulder low. I think if the exit is just in front of the off side shoulder, you get that animal almost every time. We are talking about broadside to slightly quartering away angles.

Now, that being said. Sometimes strange things happen. I once hit an axis doe, right where I wanted to. What I would consider a perfect shot and no chance of the animal surviving. It was on the edge of the back leg and about a quarter of the way up the body. I looked for that deer for about five hours that night, knowing that it was dead somewhere. I finally found it about ten the next morning. It was walking and grazing. I could see the spot where the arrow hit, and it still looked perfect. I can't explain it.

On anther occasion, I shot a huge cull buck, The shot looked perfect, but I believe the arrow hit a rib and turned about sixty degrees to the right and passed between the shoulder and rib cage. That deer came back the next day, and the entrance looked perfect but I never got a look at the back side of the deer.

The point being we do our best, but strange things sometimes happen and there are no absolutes.