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    Draw Length: Understanding, Measuring and Tuning

    Ask any top shooter and they will say one of the biggest factors, if not the biggest factor, in shooting accurate and consistent is getting the draw length set correctly. So why do we see so many archers with incorrect draw lengths? The truth is, many have no idea it is incorrect! The cause is a multi-faceted answer though.

    Let's take some of the mystery out of the draw length.

    AMO (Archery Manufacturer's Organization) draw length: This is the standard by which all bows are measured.
    True Draw Length: This is your actual draw length.



    In the above image you can see how the AMO draw length is calculated. From the pivot point in the grip to the apex of the string at full draw, plus 1.75 inches.

    The True Draw Length is from the pivot point in the grip to the apex of the string at full draw. This is your personal draw length.

    Getting Started
    Here are some good ways to start getting the correct draw length:
    1) Wingspan Method 1: Measure your wingspan with your arms outstretched to the sides at shoulder level. Don't stretch or scrunch, and use the measurement from the very tip of the middle finger to the very tip of the middle finger.
    wingspan-15/2 = starting draw length.
    For me this is 72"-15/2 = 28.5"
    2) Wingspan Method 2: Measure the same way as above, but the formula is a little different.
    wingspan/2.5 = draw length
    For me this is 72'/2.5 = 28.8"



    3) Chest Reach Method: Place the arrow nock end on your chest at the crook of the collar bones at the base of your neck with the arrow sticking straight out. Now reach up with both hands outstretched and place them, palms together, with your middle fingers on the shaft. Measure the shaft from the nock groove to the point where your middle fingers touched the shaft.
    For me that is = 28.875"

    It looks like this:



    4) Fist to Wall Method: Make fist and place your knuckles against the wall. Now measure from the wall to the corner of your mouth on your release hand side.
    For me this is = 28.8"
    5) Arrow Draw Method: Draw a bow like a Genesis or longbow with an arrow longer than your draw length to your anchor point. Mark the arrow at the pivot point of the grip or the center of the berger hole. Add 1.75" to this measurement.
    For me that is 26.75" + 1.75 = 28.5"

    As you can see, these methods are very close to each other in their end result.

    ALL of these methods are for getting the AMO draw length, NOT the true draw length! IOW, you would set the bow up according to this draw length calculation; do NOT add 1.75" to this and then set the bow up; it will be too long.

    The Truth
    This is only a starting point, as you will see.
    Given the above information my draw length should be anywhere from 28.5" to 28.875"; in fact, my draw length is 28.25".

    I know people with some apelike arms that these methods were 1.5' off.

    To make matters worse, many bow manufacturer's draw length systems are not spot on. My Hoyts always ran a little long as does my Bowtech. IOW, my Bowtech with a 28.5" module actually runs 29"; so I have to use a 28" module to get 28.5" on the bow and then tune my strings from there to get it to 28.25". Each manufacturer is different, and even different cam styles in each manufacturer's offerings can be different; some long, some short and some spot on.

    Finding the perfect Draw Length
    If the above methods are only a good starting point then we need to be able to fine tune our draw length.

    There is no perfect draw length, only the perfect draw length for YOU! However, the consensus on how the string interacts with us is pretty universal.
    The Nock: The nock point, the nock groove specifically, should be as close to under the pupil of the eye as possible. IOW, if you draw a plumb line from the eye down through the nock at full draw, that line should bisect the nock right at the throat of the nock at the apex of the string; or it should be VERY close to that.

    Here is a good image of Randy Ulmer that shows this alignment.



    The above image also shows the second point of string interaction; the point where the string touches the nose. Doing this will, in effect, give you two anchor points on the string; your nose and your peep.

    Here is an image that shows the draw length to be too long:



    However, the string doesn't necessarily NEED to touch the tip of the nose like Randy's does; it can be to one side. As long as it is the same every time. With some short axle to axle bows this is impossible to do without tilting the head, don't tilt your head to get to the string. Instead use a kisser button on the string at the corner of the mouth. This will accomplish the same thing, two anchor points.

    Draw Length is just one aspect of proper form, but it is arguably the most important.

    Too long and you will have a hard time holding on target and possibly cause damage to your shoulders.

    Too short on you will have a jumpy sight picture and inconsistent shots due to using muscles rather than bone to bone contact.

    It is better to be a 'little' too short than a 'little' (or a lot) too long.

    This procedure will set the draw length for the bow you are shooting. But remember, not all draw lengths are created equal. Don't get so hung up on numbers that you miss the point; each bow/cam/module set up may be different. It's okay to shoot a 28.5" draw length setting on one bow and a 28" draw length setting on another; what matters is that it is the same for YOU! BTW, this can be easily checked on a drawing board or with a friend who knows what to look for.
    Last edited by Rat; 03-09-2016, 12:47 PM.

    #2
    Great post.

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      #3
      Yep!

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        #4
        Thanks for that. I always get made fun of for setting my draw length to have my index knuckle under my ear lobe and my nose on the string. Nose touching the string has always felt natural to me so I set my bow up for that. I always just told everyone two anchors are better than one.

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          #5
          Tuning for the perfect draw length
          Now that we have the coarse adjustments out of the way, lets talk about how to get that in-between draw length dialed in.

          As I said before, my actual draw length is 28.25", the problem is, no one makes a system that can be adjusted finer than 1/2" increments.

          Lets say for the sake of argument that my bow manufacturer has cams and module that run spot on the advertised draw lengths. IOW, a 28" module is actually 28" when measured on a drawing board.

          When my draw length is in between sizes I opt for using the smaller module; so my draw length is 28.25" I will go with the 28" module.

          To get that .25" I need to change something.

          I choose the smaller module to help keep the draw force curve as close as possible to design.

          Untwisting the string will lengthen my draw length and is a coarse adjustment of the draw length. If I can't get it to a perfect 28.25" I can then twist the cables to make very fine adjustments to the draw length. This also has the benefit of compressing the limbs slightly so I can keep my peak weight where I want it because, when I untwist the string, I loose a little peak weight.

          So, by untwisting the string, and twisting the cables I can get that perfect 28.25" draw length I need, keep my peak draw weight and keep my cams in the correct orientation to make use of the whole draw force curve as it is designed.

          Strings play a big role here. Quality strings and cables can be made to order that do not need untwisting to get that perfect draw length and the number of twists plays a role as well. Chances are you will need to twist or untwist the factory cables and strings the first go round; but after that you get with your string maker, or make your own, so that they are the perfect length right out of the box.

          Of course, you will need bow press or a good pro shop at this stage.

          However, it is possible to live with, and shoot well, a draw length that is a little too short, or in between module sizes. It just isn't going to be perfect; but with enough time on the range it can be done. It is better to be too short than too long when it comes to draw length.

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            #6
            How do you know it's perfect?

            So far we have talked about setting the perfect draw length, now we will find it!

            How do I know my draw length is 28.25"?

            The short answer is: Lots of time at the target face!

            Here is how to do it. We use the sight picture.

            When we make these changes to the string and cables we change the dynamics of the system very slightly. The best way to gauge the changes is in our sight picture.

            Draw length too long: The sight picture is "sloppy". IOW, the pin tends to float around the spot in large circular movements.

            Draw length too short: The sight picture is "jumpy". IOW, the pin tends to dart around the spot instead of float around the spot.

            Draw length is perfect: Sight picture is "stable". IOW, the pin floats around the spot in small easy circles or is able to be held dead on.

            Once you get to a "stable" sight picture you have found YOUR perfect draw length!

            Put the bow on a drawing board and record the correct AMO draw length. This is the draw length you will tune for every time you set up a new bow or change strings/cables.

            It will be so much easier next time though; you just need to order strings to the correct length, or; get the same length strings and twist them up making checks with the drawing board. There will be no need to make many small adjustments again; since you already have the right number you can set it on the drawing board and go shoot!
            Last edited by Rat; 03-09-2016, 02:08 PM.

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              #7
              Great information here for new and old shooters!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Pigthumper View Post
                Thanks for that. I always get made fun of for setting my draw length to have my index knuckle under my ear lobe and my nose on the string. Nose touching the string has always felt natural to me so I set my bow up for that. I always just told everyone two anchors are better than one.
                Do what works for you and let them eat cake. People make fun of Reo Wilde and they way he leans back; but he's number four in the world!

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                  #9
                  . Rat always puts out great info.


                  Thanks

                  Eric.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pigthumper View Post
                    Thanks for that. I always get made fun of for setting my draw length to have my index knuckle under my ear lobe and my nose on the string. Nose touching the string has always felt natural to me so I set my bow up for that. I always just told everyone two anchors are better than one.
                    I have the same anchor points exactly. It works, I'm not going to change it either.

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                      #11
                      Awesome info!

                      I am about to go to West houston archery to get re-strung.

                      I bought my bow from a TBHer and said... meh, close enough. I should be an inch longer so I just let me release out an inch...

                      Time to get it right.

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                          #13
                          Thank for the information. Wish Mods would make threads like this stay at top.
                          This really helps us bow hunters that don't know a lot about the details of setting up a bow. This is where I miss the equipment section. Threads like this get lost in around campfire section.

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                            #14
                            Good info

                            Thx

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                              #15
                              Subscribed for easy find. Great article Rat. Like another person mentioned, this is great info for the inexperienced like me.

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