1 pin out to 40.

[Razorback01]

My Elite E35- not fast. 1 pin to 20, then I need to move my pin for 30 and then again to 40.

[Brinkley]

I have had my Darton with one pin out to 30 but that was a 30.5" dl and around 53 lbs and 350 grain arrow. This was not a hunting set up however. I am sure there are calculators that you could use to play with the numbers.

[Flex]

I've been kicking around the idea of getting into a new or new to me bow this year. Im currently shooting a Hoyt Havoc 60# 28.5" with gold tip 55/75, 100 gr broadheads. I bought it new in 2001 I think. Ive read a few things recently about bows shooting 1 pin out to 40 and was wondering if this is due to the newer bows throwing up much higher IBOs, or if there is something else i need to look at. Not sure what my Havoc shoots, but guessing its somewhere around 250 fps, and I need a separate pin at 20,30,and 40 with a substantial drop between. Curious what the green screen has to say. Also looking to go to a bow with 70 lb pull. This should push the speed up a little and flatten the trajectory in my mind. Is this correct?

I'm shooting a 430 grain arrow at 330. And still have 20,30,40,50,60 pins. Anybody that says the one pin thing is full of it, or such a bad shot they can't tell.

However, you could use a one pin and learn to hold over or under.

[scott123456789]

Was able to do it with my omen pro 30" 70lb. But it draw isn't real pleasant.

[Texas Grown]

I have two bows of the same model and year set up as follows. Weight is 58lbs on one. And 63lbs on the other. Both shooting the same arrows. Both have a IBO rating of 343-347. I'm shooting a 387-390gr arrow. Second bow is basically used for kill-n hogs at night. And I don't shoot past 30 in the dark. It dose get some time in a ground blind during deer season, should the opportunity arise. First bow has been used in 3-D in the past. as well as my all around bow.

First pin = 30 (no holdover or under out to 33 yards. Hits 1 inch high at 20. I'm not worried about hitting 1" high on a deer. If it doesn't hit vitals at 20or less...or at 33....Just say-n )
Second = 35
Third = 40
Forth = 45
And fifth = 50

You can guess where the arrow really looses speed. But is fairly consistent still.

I have one other bow that I set up just for kill-n whitetails. A "Franken" DXT at 59lbs, and set up light for pack-n in. It has a 4 pin sight and is much slower. And shoots a different arrow. Fist pin on it is at 20, 30, 40, and I don't use the 4th pin.

[ram04]

I personally shoot one pin to about 32 33 yards. Most of hunting situations are well within that so that's mostly what I practice for. do have a 40 pin to work on shooting mechanics but hunting is way closer than that.

[txdukklr]

i shoot single pin and I can shoot out to 40 with one pin in a pinch. My preference is to make the adjustment.

That said I've shot single pin for a decade, and do a lot of hold over and under with my 25 yard setting. Zero chance you can just set the pin and shoot out to 40 without knowing how much drop you'd get if you are spot on at 25. Principly for me it's the same concept as when i'm shooting a rifle (I don't use adjustable moa scopes . . . .yet)

[Mr. Whiskers]

I'm shooting a 430 grain arrow at 330. And still have 20,30,40,50,60 pins. Anybody that says the one pin thing is full of it, or such a bad shot they can't tell.

However, you could use a one pin and learn to hold over or under.

I agree. Look at the tapes that come with a single pin. I haven't seen any where the 20-30 and 40 are the same. There is definitely an adjustment. I shoot a 335 fps bow and it's close at 20-30, but not flat.

[txdukklr]

i shoot single pin and I can shoot out to 40 with one pin in a pinch. My preference is to make the adjustment.

That said I've shot single pin for a decade, and do a lot of hold over and under with my 25 yard setting. Zero chance you can just set the pin and shoot out to 40 without knowing how much drop you'd get if you are spot on at 25. Principly for me it's the same concept as when i'm shooting a rifle (I don't use adjustable moa scopes . . . .yet)

[Loneaggie]

Lots of good advice so far. Agree with no 1 pin out to 40 without having a really good grasp of arc compensation. What a ~ 300fps rig WILL let you do is nail a deer standing at 27 yards that you never even thought of ranging and shot for 20. Speed won't kill but it sure will help cover your mistakes on judging yardage to a point.

[Jeremy7306]

Had a bowtech assassin that shot 298fps, with my single pin I was very accurate up to 35 without adjusting the slider. Barely had to hold under/over. Can't do that with my ZXT though.

[tvc184]

you can calculate where to set the pin to cover 1-40.

for example it may be to sight it in at 26 yards and results be something like 2" high at 20, 1" low at 30, and 3" low at 40. good enough for a kill shot most times if you have it set right and practice with it knowing exactly where the arrow is going. you can then compensate slightly with very little holdover.

speed helps a lot. would def recommend using a bow/setup that is around 300fps. may give up some/a lot of momentum but if not hunting big gamei don't see any issues.

That term is used losely. When folks say that, they have learned to use the pin out to 40. It doesn't shoot dead on all the way out to 40. Heck, most bows won't even shoot dead on out 30, but folks learn the minimal hold over and use one pin out that far.

These posts are the answers.

All objects drop with gravity and that applies to bullets and arrows going downrange. When you shoot at a target at 20 yards "dead on" you are actually aiming slightly above it and the arrow is "falling" into the target.

For people that have 30 and 40 yard pins, what happens when the target is at 35 yards? Do they not shoot? Obviously there is some high/low aiming or it is close enough that it doesn't matter. Maybe the point of aim and point of impact will be 1"-2" difference but aiming at the center of a lung, it won't matter.

I shoot a single pin and have done so at 40 yards but rarely. I do it every once in a while just to keep it in mind. I shoot a fairly light arrow at about 290fps. At 15 yards I am about an 1.5" high. At 20 yards I am about 0.5" high (I guess my zero must be around 25 yards or so). At 30 yards it am about 1.5" low and at 40 it drops off to about 3.5" low.

Between 15 and 40 yards I drops 5". I just know how I shoot. Realistically I can hold dead on about to about 30 yards and be within 1.5" one way or the other. I look at is as not much different that a combat sight on an AR-15. The impact will rise or fall by distance but be within the "kill zone". When I back up to 40 yards, I simply aim about 3" higher than I want my arrow to impact. I find it much easier than looking at a bunch of clustered pins. Others obviously find multiple pins easier.

Call it a single pin Kentucky Windage.

If I was target shooting at a tournament and needed bullseye hits at varying ranges, I would use different pins or a slider on a single pin sights. For hunting? It is personal preference at whether you want to judge between different pins or judge a single pin. The faster the arrow the less variation in the drop as it is getting there faster before gravity has as much chance to take it toward the ground.

In my opinion.