heck then, leave all the spikes. everyone, leave them all they will be huge someday. i think forcefed deer (pens) is entirely different. these are all great deer pics though.
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I would say controlled environment before I would say forcefed deerOriginally posted by bigrack View Post
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I have no problem with that. Let's just forget about those pictures of the two penned deer. I'm sure you will have no problem forgetting about KERR since it is the same scenario.Originally posted by bigrack View PostComment
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i have heard of it before, but it is rare that one can turn out like that. im just not convinced that it is worth leaving all those critters out there for a 1 in 500 chance. just my opinion.Originally posted by CaptainDave View PostComment
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Originally posted by bigrack View Post
I would like to note their siblings (twin brothers and 1/2 brothers) were either 8's or 10's as yearlings. As 4 yr olds, they score considerably less than these two deer who were spikes as yearlings. All of the deer have lived their lives in the same environment, eating the same food and experiencing the same stresses.
So, please answer this question. at maturity, will spikes be lesser deer (smaller racked)than those deer with larger yearling racks. If so, how do you explain these two deer compared to their siblings?Comment
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encinal, you are a great debater. you have a good argument and it is working for you. congratulations on your herd. you are a great manager, keep up the good work.Comment
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i give stgs.. to answer your question though, they are in a pen. its not the same. looking in a pen at some yearlings, to me they look like a 2yr old in the wild because their condition is so awesome. if they want something to eat, they eat feed and nothing else for the first 18mo of their life. they are so well developed that i believe that is the difference in a (controlled environment) pen and the outside. but either way this is like the republican vs democrat debate, it could go on all day. answer me one time, would you had rather those yearlings be a spike or a 10pt when they were yearlings? If your answer is a 10, then why?Comment
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Lets see... a 26% chance deer (spike) vs a 1% chance deer (10 pt) on free range? I would rather go with the 10 pointer.Originally posted by bigrack View Post
The 10 has a leg up already... it would be a sucker bet to say different.
Who would you pick to win a horse race after the first turn?
You would pick the leader? How often would you win?
More often than the horse in 5th...
But if you want to pick the winner EVERY time... why wouldnt you wait until right before the stretch run. Once you make that decision... you will find that there is a lot more fighting for position than you realize.
All I want is to let the deer run the race...Comment
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Another thing all of you who are bashing the ones with huge protein programs and not shooting spikes is that feeding is not a sliver bullet. Feeding just takes the edge off of drought (which is a ENTIRELY other ball of wax). It could of been that yearling was born in a drought year, so he didn't have a jump start like the 10 pt yearling did being born in a wet year. The problem with shooting spikes is there is more than just the Almighty gene pool playing with that young buck's chemistry, and shooting him early is not going to improve his chances or other bucks chances of reaching the (eye of the beholder) trophy of the hunter/landowner.Comment
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Well girls let's open that ball of wax after this one has been completely beat into the ground (for this year anyway
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You mean week...Originally posted by JavelinaRuss View PostWell girls let's open that ball of wax after this one has been completely beat into the ground (for this year anyway )Comment
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