Trumps true colors come out

[JW]

Lol. The title of this thread is a joke.

[Black Ice]

Trumps true colors come out

I'm all for lower taxes. I'd like to see what he considers rich.

[kyle1974]

We already have a significant number of flat taxes, to name a few:
federal and state gas taxes
liquor tax
local and/or state property tax
cigarettes

Regressive taxes:
sales tax (flat taxes on necessities are regressive by nature)
stamps
Vehicle registration
Vehicle inspection
Social security

All of these burden the poor more than the rich: this is evened out by a progressive income tax. Now, what the fairest percentages and brackets sizes should be...well that's highly debatable.

Those are flat taxes. I'm talking about flat rates.

paying 10% on 500,000 a year, is more money than 10% of 50,000 a year isn't it? a "progressive" tax system penalizes people for success. "what's fair" is WAY back in the rear view mirror...

[kyle1974]

I'm not following you. They played unfair but paid taxes?????

I'm referring to those who play unfairly and never pay taxes. With a sales tax, they will have to pay taxes if they buy anything new. Granted it's not perfect but it in conjunction with a flat tax seem to cover more folks. The biggest issue to me is the resale market. However it sure helps keep your crap from depreciating as bad. But that in turn could cause economic issues too.

I"m talking about people like me... or my parents, or anyone that has paid taxes for 20 years. (i.e. under the unfair tax regulations) now, the game changes. We've saved our money, been prudent, and been penalized under a tax scheme that sets people up for failure. the more you make, the higher rate you pay.

if you're 25, and have barely paid into the system, maybe it's no big deal. If you're a few years away from no longer having an active income and close to retirement, or people that are already retired, it's a huge deal, and very unbalanced.

[Ætheling]

Lol. The title of this thread is a joke.

Haha, there he is pickin a fight again with no intelligent input. Always good for a laugh, thanks!

[lovemylegacy]

So whats wrong with the super wealthy paying more taxes and middle class getting some relief?

[Mike D]

So whats wrong with the super wealthy paying more taxes and middle class getting some relief?

Because that's socialism at it finest.

[Mike D]

I"m talking about people like me... or my parents, or anyone that has paid taxes for 20 years. (i.e. under the unfair tax regulations) now, the game changes. We've saved our money, been prudent, and been penalized under a tax scheme that sets people up for failure. the more you make, the higher rate you pay.

if you're 25, and have barely paid into the system, maybe it's no big deal. If you're a few years away from no longer having an active income and close to retirement, or people that are already retired, it's a huge deal, and very unbalanced.

Because that's the problem, it's not about you as an individual. It's about the betterment of the country as a whole.

There is no perfect way to implement. Some people would be ****** but oh well. I would GLADLY go to a flat or consumption tax. At least I would know that everybody is contributing.

[JW]

Trumps true colors come out

Haha, there he is pickin a fight again with no intelligent input. Always good for a laugh, thanks!

Hey. Come over to Sam's Boat. I'll buy. We'll discuss.


Fact is I don't agree. I know you don't like Trump. There is nothing wrong with that. Doesn't make you wrong and me right.

[WCB]

I think by late fall Trump won't be the front runner anymore. And I don't see him as able to come from behind either.

So all this is a moot point...

[deer99hunter]

Because that's socialism at it finest.

Because that's the problem, it's not about you as an individual. It's about the betterment of the country as a whole.

There is no perfect way to implement. Some people would be ****** but oh well. I would GLADLY go to a flat or consumption tax. At least I would know that everybody is contributing.

Soooo, what exactly is socialism ???

[tvc184]

The poor not having to pay taxes? Can't figure out what's socialstic about that either. Lol

The poor pay no income tax now.

A progressive tax rate is not socialism.

Perhaps you should read up on the definition of socialism.

[Arrowslinger1]

Don't sound socialist to me..

Yeah I don't see what makes this socialist? Less taxes for middle or low income household and giving tax breaks to businesses that keep jobs in the us doesn't sound socialist to me! I am not a trump band Waggoner either.

[texansfan]

Two people, making under $50k per year, not paying taxes is Socialism???
All I can say is God bless the souls of those in that situation.

I think many of you don't realize what kind of people actually make less than $25k per year individually.

If you send your kid(s) to a daycare, chances are, the staff there make less than $25k per year.

I asked a guy working on a building in the Woodlands in the other day what are their day rates and he said that Marek ( http://www.marekbros.com/contact/houston ) starts you off at $12 an hour.
So, you're hanging drywall all day then go to class Friday nights but you're making less than $25k per year (I'm not counting overtime).

Couple kids, a few years out of high school, she has her AA in Elementary Ed making $12 at the daycare that charges $350 per week per kid.
He's hanging drywall and digging ditches all day trying to learn the trades.
Combined they pulled in $47k last year.

I'd say give them a break, especially if I'm making $47k per month (or more).

[Mike D]

Soooo, what exactly is socialism ???

Trying to make everyone equal, even though they aren't.