Asking Permission to Hunt

[Patton]

I have identified several properties that would be great dove leases and have researched the landowner information (Name, address, phone number). I would like to find one or two properties for personal dove hunting, and lease out any other properties I can gain access to. I have drawn up waivers, releases and rules.

I am confident in asking permission for myself to hunt (and understand I will receive a lot of "No's") but I'm not sure on the correct wording I should use when asking permission to lease their property to others. Obviously I want to be honest with the landowners-- meaning tell them I am leasing their property and not just 'bringing out friends'. But I don't want to disclose how much I plan on leasing out for, and I am not sure what would be a fair deal for both parties.

Do I offer a solid monetary amount, or a percentage of what I hope to make? I understand different strokes for different folks, and I'm sure the agreements/deals will vary between landowners, but what would be the best strategy to attack this?
Anything else I may not have thought of?

Thanks in advance
-Patton

[Boss Buck]

I like honesty. Land owner is going to know if his field has new truck traffic and shooting? Good luck.

[Buff]

Check on the cost of insurance for this

Mine is $2,200.00 a year

[TP3]

After 11 years of leasing dove pastures I have found one thing to be true. Money talks. You can get a great deal if you have a check in hand this time of year or earlier.
As far as subleasing goes just be upfront and tell him that you are the lease boss and you will have other hunters. Insurance is a whole other issue.

[Lungbustr]

Check on the cost of insurance for this

Mine is $2,200.00 a year

Smart man.

[elkaholic9292]

Never underestimate the power of a new pocket knife and a 5lb bag of shelled pecans when introducing yourself to a landowner.

[Patton]

Thanks

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[theskelly10]

I've come across a similar problem, but for deer. Right behind my apartment complex is a small farm that has 8-12 deer roaming on it. 2 great 8's, nubbin bucks, a spike, a few doe and plenty of fawns. I've noticed driving by that an older couple lives there but just don't have the courage to ask. I would use bow only and would be willing to split meat with them and all that. I've even thought of helping tend to any help they needed (moving things, mowing, weed eating, management, etc.) just for a trade off to hunt there. Any suggestions?

[gatorgrizz27]

It would have to be a significant amount of money for me to lease land to people I had never met. It's one thing to get a feel for you personally and be ok with it, but say I'm on my property and there are guys I don't know drinking, shooting close to barns/cattle etc. I go over to say something and they tell me too bad, they paid someone else to hunt on my land and have a lease. Sure I can call you or the sheriff but it's not worth the hassle for a few grand.

It would make me feel a lot better if the guys were all members of some gun or shooting club that had at least a Facebook page and a mention of something about responsibility and rules. I'd have all the guys I was subleasing to out to shoot some clays and make sure they can handle a gun safely, it's the responsible thing to do.

[ajm2nac]

honesty will get you a long way

[westtexducks]

I would not hide how much you are going to lease the property to other hunters. All it takes is for him to drive out one day and ask how much are you guys paying for this and your butt can be in a sling in a hurry. Recently watched this happen between a land owner and leaser subleasing to an oil company out by Iraan and to say it hit the fan would be an understatement.

[RutnBuk]

4 of these came from asking permission. 2nd from the right was the one that didn't. My dove hunting spot is from asking. Be honest with your intentions up front if you think your going to sublease.

[Lungbustr]

I've come across a similar problem, but for deer. Right behind my apartment complex is a small farm that has 8-12 deer roaming on it. 2 great 8's, nubbin bucks, a spike, a few doe and plenty of fawns. I've noticed driving by that an older couple lives there but just don't have the courage to ask. I would use bow only and would be willing to split meat with them and all that. I've even thought of helping tend to any help they needed (moving things, mowing, weed eating, management, etc.) just for a trade off to hunt there. Any suggestions?

Your on the right track. 100% of the time, when I have skills or the ability to do work they are not capable of I have gotten permission. Makes sure you have your liability release in hand when you go ask for permission. The one I use is from the NRA. It provides me written permission to hunt, and liability protection for them. Good luck.

[mfsasser]

We have some farm country that we lease to a farmer and he charges $100/day for dove hunts and gives us half

[txtimetravler]

To the general, pm texascattleman as he leases out hundreds of acres for dove every year.