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    #61
    Originally posted by chris1911 View Post
    no sir....no yelling. he is super respectful and thanks me for helping get him where he is. he LOVES pitching, and if loves it then so do i. ive spent alot of time squatted down behind the plate catching for him. TEACHING him. it sounds like to me that your brain to mouth connection is broken. so good luck to you sir on fixing that. and i asked for advice here because 99% of these guys have common sense....guess i found the other1%
    No offense, but a common sense answer or approach is not what you should be looking for and I dont think that I would be on a hunting forum, asking for advice about pitching, where you are going to get every response in the book. To me, that is like asking which truck is better or which bullet is better. Instead, find the high school in your area, or college, or someone that specializes in pitching and ask them what they think. Or ask the coaches on this board what they think. Asking a bunch of dads, who coach their sons little league team might open you up to getting the wrong answer to your question. I am not degrading parents that coach their kids, but we all have seen those types of parents, who know everything about the game, but have never picked up a ball or bat, yet their way is the best and only way.

    But to answer your question, I would say 3 pitches, with none of them being any that put unnecessary or unneeded torque on the elbow or shoulder. 2 seam, 4 seam, changeup, and/or split finger. In 9 year old ball, if someone can throw all of those with great command, then he is above the curve. On the same token, if any 9 year old can hit those pitches, he is above the curve too.

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      #62
      IMO, When he can consistently hit the corners and the place the ball where he wants it then he can learn the curve

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        #63
        Originally posted by #11 View Post
        No offense, but a common sense answer or approach is not what you should be looking for and I dont think that I would be on a hunting forum, asking for advice about pitching, where you are going to get every response in the book. To me, that is like asking which truck is better or which bullet is better. Instead, find the high school in your area, or college, or someone that specializes in pitching and ask them what they think. Or ask the coaches on this board what they think. Asking a bunch of dads, who coach their sons little league team might open you up to getting the wrong answer to your question. I am not degrading parents that coach their kids, but we all have seen those types of parents, who know everything about the game, but have never picked up a ball or bat, yet their way is the best and only way.



        But to answer your question, I would say 3 pitches, with none of them being any that put unnecessary or unneeded torque on the elbow or shoulder. 2 seam, 4 seam, changeup, and/or split finger. In 9 year old ball, if someone can throw all of those with great command, then he is above the curve. On the same token, if any 9 year old can hit those pitches, he is above the curve too.

        "Just a hunting forum"?? Rookie

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          #64
          Originally posted by Backwoods101 View Post
          "Just a hunting forum"?? Rookie
          This is not just a hunting forum, but I doubt he would be getting on a pitching or baseball forum, asking which bow be should buy or which arrows to shoot or what broadhead to use.

          And being called a rookie is hilarious. I mean you have been on here for so much longer than me, since September 2014. WOW!
          Last edited by #11; 03-28-2015, 08:44 AM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by #11 View Post
            This is not just a hunting forum, but I doubt he would be getting on a pitching or baseball forum, asking which bow be should buy or which arrows to shoot or what broadhead to use.

            And being called a rookie is hilarious. I mean you have been on here for so much longer than me, since September 2014. WOW!
            I know a ton of hunters that play or played baseball. He asked for advice and several experienced people on this forum is giving it to him.

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              #66
              You don't have to teach him how to throw a curve. Kids will be kids and he will learn it on is own it will be up to you to make sure he knows what he is doing and that it can hurt his arm at a young age.

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                #67
                Originally posted by dswaim View Post
                As an athletic trainer, I deal with this all the time. Kids start throwing breaking pitches too young and their arms just can't handle. And by the time they are in HS their arms are shot. Their bodies are still doing too much growing and are not mature enough to handle the mechanics of throwing breaking pitches. And if said athlete is throwing with bad mechanics (which we see a lot of) it just compounds the problem.
                The thing with pitch counts is that they don't take into account the other positions that athlete plays or any bull pen session they have thrown or playing on other teams. What do we do with our pitcher after we pull him from pitching? Usually he is one of our better athletes so he plays ss or c, which probably throw the most balls in a game next to the pitcher. This is also why many Drs are against specializing at a young age.
                High School Athletic Trainer #2 chiming in and agree with ^^^. My caution with parents and "pitching coaches" is, pitching on their scheduled day in high school then weekly bully sessions, then going to a pitching coach x 2 a week. That's a big load on a young arm and adds up over time. I had one of our baseball dads talk to me about their son's arm pain and we totaled up that he was on an average pitching over 300 throws off a mound A WEEK! Dad had not put the two together. Moral of the story it adds up fast.

                Another point is, though it looks the same to the naked eye, but immature players (most high school aged and below) use more bicep tendon then developed throwers. When they develop anterior arm pain, they change the mechanics, now the elbow hurts. Another thing to point out that pitchers with elbow pain have contralateral hip weakness usually
                Last edited by .270; 03-28-2015, 10:57 AM.

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                  #68
                  [QUOTE=#11;9908446]This is not just a hunting forum, but I doubt he would be getting on a pitching or baseball forum, asking which bow be should buy or which arrows to shoot or what broadhead to use.

                  And being called a rookie is hilarious. I mean you have been on here for so much longer than me, since September 2014. WOW![/

                  I'm sure in your 12 days on this site you can fully grasp the intelligence of the 70,000+ members on here. Hang around for a couple of months and then we will continue this conversation. And yes, in 6 months I can promise you I have a much more valid opinion of TBH than you do. With your attitude I'm sure you will be one of the favorites soon!

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                    #69
                    Post #57 had MLB experience, not sure what the OP was thinking seeking info here.

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