retrieve dove across fence lines?

[LostHawg]

If the land owner fails to allow you to retrieve the bird after you ask, then you've made your reasonable effort. It is NOT in your possession.

[Shadow]

From this year's annual:

# Waste of Game: It is an offense (Class C misdemeanor) if a person while hunting kills or wounds a game bird or game animal and intentionally or knowingly fails to make a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal or bird and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit. It is an offense if a person intentionally takes a game bird, game animal, or fish and intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly, or with criminal negligence, fails to keep the edible portions of the bird, animal, or fish in an edible condition. For whitetail and mule deer, pronghorn antelope, and desert bighorn sheep, the violation is a Class A misdemeanor.
# Retrieval of Game: No person may pursue a wounded wildlife resource across a property line without the consent of landowner of the property where the wildlife resource has fled. Under the trespass provisions of the Penal Code, a person on a property without the permission of the landowner is subject to arrest.

I don't know if you have to count it against your limit. I know that if you can't recover a deer you are under no obligation to eat the tag.

You answered your own question... even deer animal or bird and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit.

[tommy1005]

but if the landowner says you can't come onto his property, then you've made a reasonable effort to retrieve, thus you would not have to count it against your limit.

[RLoving1]

Crossing the property line with firearm is Class A misdemeanor,crimanal tress passing with deadly weapon=up to 1 year in jail and $4000 fine,without weapon is class C $20-200 fine and no jail time the class c falls under same deal as loitering in posted parking lot...learned that one well in high school! Most times is possible ask land owner about crossing to retrieve game ahead of time,I've hunted alot where the fence was ajacent to water and it became a natural flyway and the birds flew dead over fence.

[JimN]

"It is an offense (Class C misdemeanor) if a person while hunting kills or wounds a game bird or game animal and intentionally or knowingly fails to make a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal or bird and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit."

If you know the bird is dead it counts against your limit...

[Shadow]

"It is an offense (Class C misdemeanor) if a person while hunting kills or wounds a game bird or game animal and intentionally or knowingly fails to make a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal or bird and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit."

Here's how I read it...might be way off base but a GW could confirm.

It is an offense (Class C misdemeanor) if a person while hunting kills or wounds a game bird or game animal (you shoot a bird or deer)and intentionally or knowingly fails to make a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal or bird (reasonable is up to the GW but if he can find it so can you)and include it in the person's daily or seasonal bag limit(This is where the GW will get you for not including it in the limit.).

Any GW's on here that can clearify this?

[LostHawg]

Ah, I give up......

[Slingblade]

If the land owner fails to allow you to retrieve the bird after you ask, then you've made your reasonable effort. It is NOT in your possession.

Yes. This is true. The key thing in all of this is "Reasonable Effort". DO NOT CROSS onto the property if the land owner says stay out. If you shoot a bird a give it a good try to find it (Dogs or not) you are ok. You don't have to look for an hour and miss the rest of the hunt. G.W. know this and unless you are just shooting birds and leaving them on the ground were they lay there is nothing to worry about.

[Duramaxjack]

what's the law in Texas about going on someone else's property to retrieve game?

shooting doves Monday and the landowner on his side of the fence was being very difficult, etc. we were NOT shooting across the fence, doing anything illegal. he was just being a jerk (a really big jerk - he doesn't like the guy we lease from - the blue streak he was spewing downed several birds).

long story short: some doves got hit, fluttered on then, of course, went down on his property. did not go get them. my understanding is that you have to have owner permission to retrieve them. is that right?

seems like I read in the Kansas regs something about "Fair Chase" and that you can do that in KS without land owner permission but now can't remember.

Man you wasn't hunting down around Beeville was you? Found myself looking down the barrel of a 38 years ago just for that. That guy didn't like it at all. The bird was just across the fence. I didn't see the landowner so I thought what the heck.. WRONG a lesson learned. Now day’s I don’t care where your at DO NOT CROSS THAT FENCE

[Mark44]

Man you wasn't hunting down around Beeville was you? Found myself looking down the barrel of a 38 years ago just for that. That guy didn't like it at all. The bird was just across the fence. I didn't see the landowner so I thought what the heck.. WRONG a lesson learned. Now day’s I don’t care where your at DO NOT CROSS THAT FENCE

not in Beeville. up north toward Wichita Falls. the guy was a jerk and our landowner assures he is "mental." always fun to be around Mr Profanity and his limited vocabularly. takes a special person to come out screaming at armed men, challenging their upbringing and saying not-so nice things about their mothers and heritage...

but we didn't go get our birds that fell in his yard (or ask his permission) ... and I did enjoy the one that I hit in the rudder who lost hydraulic pressure and dropped on his tin roof with a resounding BANG. very nice...

[Jaspro]

You should try being on the ground observing crop dusters spraying when around people like this. College station had the worst bunch. You never heard some of the dangdest stories of what an airplane can do.

[Chad C]

Get a dog, They are: low profile, quick, and for the most part the only way I care to bird hunt! Here are my bird huntin compadres!!!!!!!!! Otherwise everyone has pretty much made the point!!!

[Chad C]

forgott the pic!

[Mark44]

good lookin' dogs. not quite as good as my two Brittanies though! ;-)

I wasn't about to send my dog over to Mr Unhappy Pants place. figured he might take a shot at my dog!

[Fightinaggies]

Legally nope there lost, but send the dog and hope he doesnt notice