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    Been in the news fairly often , but dang this stinks.I've read about the different ways the Govt. is skirting the 2nd amendment.This is not just gun related but one of many ways they harass the little guys in the gun industry.
    Last edited by Pkripper; 02-11-2015, 03:28 PM. Reason: none

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    It does stink and it's a shame.

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      #3
      Who the heck signed that into law...

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        #4
        So they took his money for no reason, realized they were wrong, and charged him 50k to get his money back. Smh.

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          #5
          Yet Al Sharpton is allowed to run all around the country as a known tax cheat, owing millions in taxes. This country is screwed.

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            #6
            Originally posted by rtp View Post
            Yet Al Sharpton is allowed to run all around the country as a known tax cheat, owing millions in taxes. This country is screwed.
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              #7
              It is incredible that stuff like this is allowed to go on.
              What a shame.

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                #8
                Lawless administration. Lawless president. He's begging for someone to do something.

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                  #9
                  legalized mafia is what i call and BS

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                    I'm pretty sure that I saw an "apology" from the IRS commissioner for this harassment! It involved approximately 147 businesses and according to the IRS they were targeting businesses that they thought were money laundering. Here is a quote from the IRS commish/ Koskinen, who apologized to those snared by the IRS practice, assured that the agency stopped seizing assets without clear wrongdoing in October. But the law that allowed Clyde and others to be targeted is still on the books. That law needs to be repealed.

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                      #11
                      Dang shame all the BS that goes on.

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                        #12
                        Those types of forfeiture laws have been around prior to the current administration

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by El Coyote View Post
                          Who the heck signed that into law...
                          Title III of the Patriot Act, signed into law by good ole George W., amended the Bank Secrecy Act of 1970 to require enforcement and broaden the scope and authority of the Government for these types of programs:

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by EEBowHunter View Post
                            Title III of the Patriot Act, signed into law by good ole George W., amended the Bank Secrecy Act of 1970 to require enforcement and broaden the scope and authority of the Government for these types of programs:

                            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot...d_Improvements
                            Let's not bash Bush for this. The problem we're having is the people running the IRS right now. They have been doing so much shady &^%$ here lately i think the whole management needs to be replaced. Seems like a bunch of bleeding liberals are in charge and have been reeking havoc. Heck the EPA too. Seems to me there is a new strategy in place. Since the liberals don't have as much control over capitol hill as they want the plan is to abuse the law to the fullest extent possible from within other agencies.

                            Look at what the EPA is trying to do in terms of shutting down long running gun ranges and lead mills. Hell, they're spending a ton of money on a new 5.56mm round for the military that is lead free. Problem is, the darn thing is way more expensive, not very reliable, doesn’t have enough weight, and the accuracy is terrible. All this because a naturally occurring substance called lead is the devil. God forbid you dig it out of the ground then stick it back into the ground. I understand contaminating the ground water you drink out of but for Pete's sake most of the pipes in large cities are still lead.

                            Did i just go on a rant?

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                              MOTIVE......

                              IRS Civil Forfeiture Abuse.......


                              IRS Seizes First, Asks Questions Later............

                              The aggressive tactics adopted by law enforcement in structuring cases are, perhaps, unsurprising given that the proceeds of forfeited property are funneled back to the very agencies responsible for the forfeiture — an arrangement that gives law enforcement a perverse financial incentive to seize as much as possible.

                              Under federal law, funds seized by the IRS are deposited in the Treasury Forfeiture Fund. Those funds are then available, without any appropriation by Congress, for use by the IRS to fund law enforcement activities including seizures of additional property. The result is a vicious cycle, in which abuse of innocent Americans like Hinders makes it possible for government to seize even more property.

                              Indeed, the amount of money held in the Treasury Forfeiture Fund and an analogous fund maintained by the Department of Justice grew from $763 million in 2001 to nearly $3.2 billion in 2012.

                              In Hinders’ case, the IRS ultimately agreed to return the money. But only after 16 months of litigation. Hinders was able to fight the case thanks to free legal representation from the Institute for Justice, a national public interest law firm that litigates to protect property rights. Fighting the seizure might have cost Hinders more than twice what was seized, had she hired her own attorney..........

                              Last edited by Tbar; 02-13-2015, 07:28 AM.

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