CHL cons question

[Playa]

There's no reason not to provide the LEO both your DL and CHL during a traffic stop; carrying or not. If they go and run your DL, it will show you have a CHL. If you didn't provide the CHL in the first place, then the LEO will probably question you about it regardless.

Right, so why give the perception that you are hiding something, and just make their job easier by being up front?

[Chasin Bacon]

+1

If you commit a crime while carrying, (drunk driving or public intoxication for example) there may be stiffer penalties. There's nothing illegal about having a drink with dinner while carrying, but whether you're intoxicated is completely up to any officer that stops you. The .08 rule does not apply.

The way it was described to me was that the act of committing a crime that is a Class B or more severe nullifies the privilege to carry concealed. So they can then add the charge of carrying a concealed weapon (even though you have a CHL).

[gonzaleziam]

Right, so why give the perception that you are hiding something, and just make their job easier by being up front?

That's why I was told to always show your CHL with DL. The instructor was/is a police chief for the next city over. His experience had been that he felt the person was hiding something when the driver was not up front about CHL. Of course, I live 5 minutes from the border where border violence is somewhat crazy.

[Brooks]

You could legally not be intoxicated .08% BAC and have any alcohol in your system while carrying and could be charged with a felony.

[JGlock30]

i make the rule simple: If i have had anything at all to drink, i do not carry. Plain and simple, that is the best way to go about it. It's when you take risks like carrying after only having a few that can get you in deep trouble.

If i'm investigated for using my weapon as deadly force, i would prefer to be 100% sober than 1% intoxicated. Will make it much easier to defend my decision.

bingo!!

[tvc184]

You could legally not be intoxicated .08% BAC and have any alcohol in your system while carrying and could be charged with a felony misdemeanor.

fify

[Brooks]

fify

Thanks. Class A?


I am in the boat with the guys that have zero tolerance. I do not drink and carry.

[Coach W]

Get your CHL. Period.

If nothing else it makes buying guns easier even if you dont carry daily

[bondo]

I was stopped for speeding in Cibolo, Tx. Handed him my TDL and CHL . He ask if I had my weapon and I told him it is right here in in the console, which I had my hand on.. He didn't ask me to get out , just wrote out a ticket and sent me on my way.

[tvc184]

There's no reason not to provide the LEO both your DL and CHL during a traffic stop; carrying or not. If they go and run your DL, it will show you have a CHL. If you didn't provide the CHL in the first place, then the LEO will probably question you about it regardless.

I've been stopped a couple times since having my CHL. The LEO's both times didn't seem to care much at all. Both of them asked if I was carrying. One time I was and the other I wasn't. The one time I was carrying, the LEO just said he appreciated me telling him where it was and for me not to reach for it.

Honestly, I think most LEO's dont' mind CHL holders as they know that the person went out of their way and passed a back ground check in order to carry.

I will give you this perspective.

Officers will not know that you have a CHL unless they run your license. Unless the officer is looking for something specific, running a DL is not automatic.

The law does require the officer to be notified of a CHL if you are carrying. The suspension and criminal penalty were removed but not the law.

We now have a law without any teeth as you can break the law and receive no punishment.

However......

I can guarantee that some officers really get disturbed if they find a person has lied, misled or failed to comply with a law requiring something, even without a penalty. An officer that might otherwise be inclined to give you a warning, especially if you notify him of a CHL while carrying, might decide to use his discretion on a minor traffic charge. An example is that if you fail to signal intent of a turn within 100' of the turn, it is a criminal violation. The options the officer has if he stops you is to give a warning, to give a citation or make an arrest and tow your vehicle.

It is just my opinion that it is never good to give an officer a reason to be mad at you. What might normally be a simple warning or even a citation might be turned into something more severe and completely lawful at his discretion.

Why risk it when the law requires it?

Right, so why give the perception that you are hiding something, and just make their job easier by being up front?

All meaning that I agree with Playa. Officers tend not to like it when someone makes the job harder, especially by not complying with a law.

[tvc184]

And I honestly have no idea what a disadvantage of obtaining a CHL might be. I can think of nothing that would be no crime or a misdemeanor that would all of a sudden turn into a felony because a CHL was involved.

[Chasin Bacon]

And I honestly have no idea what a disadvantage of obtaining a CHL might be. I can think of nothing that would be no crime or a misdemeanor that would all of a sudden turn into a felony because a CHL was involved.

I can't think of any crime which would increase in severity based upon the perpetrator being a CHL. If anything you lose the privilege of being legally concealed by committing the crime, but at that rate you're not being penalized additionally by having a CHL your simply back on the same standards as someone who never had one.

[jruss]

We all have CHL. Its called the constatution 2nd amd. Never had a problem.

[systemnt]

The only con in being issued a Concealed Hangun License, is you are forced to grow up, gain common sense, have a better understanding of the laws, act differently in confrontations, and have an overall better perception of your surroundings.
All those can go in the Pro category as well.

[npe001]

I have only got warning while carrying