Correct me if I am wrong

[pyrobow]

But doesn't any combination of vehicles driven or towed over 26000 thousand
# require a CDL. ie tow vehicle 13000 gvw and trailer 14000 gvw

[Playa]

Been a while but yes I believe that right unless it's hauling raw cotton

[Mudslinger]

Use to be 31,000, now I think it is 26,000.

[Dale Moser]

26,000 combination.

[Mtltx]

26,000 or hazmat requiring placards would need a CDL

[tgridley]

You are wrong, my truck and horse trailer is over that, and I can also pull it with a big rig as long as it is for my personal use and pleasure.

Do I Need A Commercial Driver's License to Pull My Horse Trailer

This concerns those increasing complaints of ropers being harassed by DOT and state troopers across the country for Commercial diver licenses. We have finally received notification via legal council concerning federal regulations on the matter. You may want to keep a copy of this in your truck.

Federal Motor Carriers Regulations

Under Part 390, Subpart A - general applicability and definitions, Part 390.3 (f). Exceptions. Unless otherwise specifically provided, the rules in the subchapter do not apply to - (3) the occasional transportation of personal property by individuals not for compensation or in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise.

In the interpretation for 390.3 it states: Question 21: Does the exemption in 390.3 (f) (3) for the "occasional transportation of personal property by individuals not for compensation nor in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise" apply to persons who occasionally us CMV's to transport cars, boats, horses, etc., to races tournaments, shows or similar events, even if prize money is offered at these events?

Guidance: The exemption would apply to this kind of transportation, provided: (1) The underlying activities are not undertaken for profit, i.e., prize money is declared as ordinary income for tax purposes, and (b) the cost of the underlying activities is not deducted as a business expense for tax purposes: and, where relevant: (2) corporate sponsorship is not involved. Drivers must confer with their State of licensure to determine the licensing provision to which they are subject.

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Since the IRS pretty well declares every roper as a hobbyist unless they can prove profit in consecutive years, the tax portion appears to let everyone off the hook. However, do point out that showing sponsorships on horse trailers may open the door to these penalties and temporary impoundment.

[chuckdeerhunter]

No u need a cdl. Your over 26001#s

[kparker158]

If you have a class a you can run over 26k as long as it's personal use. Farm use is also exempt up to (48k?) lbs I believe.

[fullsizeaggie]

Any combination that CAN (not that is) carry 26000 lbs or more needs a CDL for commercial use. Except for personal use as stated above. The farm use exemption from above sounds correct.

[Team Roper]

Any combination that CAN (not that is) carry 26000 lbs or more needs a CDL for commercial use. Except for personal use as stated above. The farm use exemption from above sounds correct.

^^^^ Wrong Farm use no longer applies nor does personal use to exempt you. Texas State Hwy patrol educated me on this about 3 yrs ago. Farm use must have a Class A Exempt.

[tgridley]

^^^^ Wrong Farm use no longer applies nor does personal use to exempt you. Texas State Hwy patrol educated me on this about 3 yrs ago. Farm use must have a Class A Exempt.

Not all DPS guy know the law. My hunting partner is a DPS weights guy and he says it's ok for personal use on my horse trailer. Just saying.

[fullsizeaggie]

I have been out of the business for 2+ years so I'm sure laws have changed....Just something to keep us on our toes and keep the tickets rolling in....

[tex4k]

"Correct me if I am wrong" said no man ever where his wife could hear.

[cwill37]

CDL no. But you need to have the correct license. You can have a Class B or A that is not a CDL.

Example: Some 5th wheel combinations exceed 26000lb you need a class B but not a CDL.

[rubydog]

You are wrong, my truck and horse trailer is over that, and I can also pull it with a big rig as long as it is for my personal use and pleasure.

Do I Need A Commercial Driver's License to Pull My Horse Trailer

This concerns those increasing complaints of ropers being harassed by DOT and state troopers across the country for Commercial diver licenses. We have finally received notification via legal council concerning federal regulations on the matter. You may want to keep a copy of this in your truck.

Federal Motor Carriers Regulations

Under Part 390, Subpart A - general applicability and definitions, Part 390.3 (f). Exceptions. Unless otherwise specifically provided, the rules in the subchapter do not apply to - (3) the occasional transportation of personal property by individuals not for compensation or in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise.

In the interpretation for 390.3 it states: Question 21: Does the exemption in 390.3 (f) (3) for the "occasional transportation of personal property by individuals not for compensation nor in the furtherance of a commercial enterprise" apply to persons who occasionally us CMV's to transport cars, boats, horses, etc., to races tournaments, shows or similar events, even if prize money is offered at these events?

Guidance: The exemption would apply to this kind of transportation, provided: (1) The underlying activities are not undertaken for profit, i.e., prize money is declared as ordinary income for tax purposes, and (b) the cost of the underlying activities is not deducted as a business expense for tax purposes: and, where relevant: (2) corporate sponsorship is not involved. Drivers must confer with their State of licensure to determine the licensing provision to which they are subject.

***********

Since the IRS pretty well declares every roper as a hobbyist unless they can prove profit in consecutive years, the tax portion appears to let everyone off the hook. However, do point out that showing sponsorships on horse trailers may open the door to these penalties and temporary impoundment.

If it has air brakes you better have an air brake endorsement that only comes with the CDL.