why not build it?

[xman59]

even with all the water we really do have we have a water need that is not going away,, and I thank the good Lord for all the rains this week,,, but even with these rains unless it continues the need will soon return...
our government can find ways to spend money on plenty or wrong things and pet projects,,, why do we not have desalinization plants ( i hope i spelled that right) around this country... sure its expensive but anyone seen the price tag for an aircraft carrier or a nuclear submarine? what about the stupid costs of this sham of a health care overall? millions for a computer system that doesn't even work right! subsidies for the insurance companies!!!
we as citizens and stake holders in this country need to start pushing our elected officials for needed projects,, like drawing usable water from the gulf of mexico and the oceans on the east and west coast, it is a doable project,, yea it will coast a bunch, but then water can be piped cross country as need be,,, a few years ago Georgia was in major drought, now much of Texas is, even though recent rains this week are a major relief for many they not an end to the need for water,,, if sadia arabia can build a functioning salt water plant, this country ought to darn well be able to do it multiple times over....
i know Oklahoma needs water, and i am sure they are not alone,,,, we have the ability and the knowledge so when do we push the go button ?
we can pump oil from Alaska, put a man on the moon several times, build a ship to fly to Mars and drive around, send another so far away we cant even find it, split an atom ... we can build a plant to remove salt from water!!!
we prayed for rain as a group, God answered and is still answering that prayer.... we can sure enough pray for our elected officials to use some of our tax money for building a water system from the oceans supply.....
it has been said that from the begining we have never gained or lost a single drop of water, we have used and redirected it in many ways, but that drop eventually become a drop again,,, God created a system by which the water recycled itself,, if you heat it it becomes a vapor and can travel great distances before it becomes a drop again,,,, the good Lord gave us abilities and imaginations wisdom and dreams,,,, lets put them all to use and push and pray for a real solution to water problems,,, never ceasing to be thankful for what we already have........
i am off the soap box,, next in line step up...........

[1369]

even with all the water we really do have we have a water need that is not going away,, and I thank the good Lord for all the rains this week,,, but even with these rains unless it continues the need will soon return...
our government can find ways to spend money on plenty or wrong things and pet projects,,, why do we not have desalinization plants ( i hope i spelled that right) around this country... sure its expensive but anyone seen the price tag for an aircraft carrier or a nuclear submarine? what about the stupid costs of this sham of a health care overall? millions for a computer system that doesn't even work right! subsidies for the insurance companies!!!
we as citizens and stake holders in this country need to start pushing our elected officials for needed projects,, like drawing usable water from the gulf of mexico and the oceans on the east and west coast, it is a doable project,, yea it will coast a bunch, but then water can be piped cross country as need be,,, a few years ago Georgia was in major drought, now much of Texas is, even though recent rains this week are a major relief for many they not an end to the need for water,,, if sadia arabia can build a functioning salt water plant, this country ought to darn well be able to do it multiple times over....
i know Oklahoma needs water, and i am sure they are not alone,,,, we have the ability and the knowledge so when do we push the go button ?
we can pump oil from Alaska, put a man on the moon several times, build a ship to fly to Mars and drive around, send another so far away we cant even find it, split an atom ... we can build a plant to remove salt from water!!!
we prayed for rain as a group, God answered and is still answering that prayer.... we can sure enough pray for our elected officials to use some of our tax money for building a water system from the oceans supply.....
it has been said that from the begining we have never gained or lost a single drop of water, we have used and redirected it in many ways, but that drop eventually become a drop again,,, God created a system by which the water recycled itself,, if you heat it it becomes a vapor and can travel great distances before it becomes a drop again,,,, the good Lord gave us abilities and imaginations wisdom and dreams,,,, lets put them all to use and push and pray for a real solution to water problems,,, never ceasing to be thankful for what we already have........
i am off the soap box,, next in line step up...........

San Antonio will begin building one next year I believe.

[Bud]

Supposedly there is an "ocean" under San Antonio. Could end their water problems if they could get the salt out.

[br549redneck]

I think from studies done here where were running out of water, that the amount of water you actually recover gal/gal doesnt make it feasible. Some of the lakes around here have a real high salinity content where reveres osmosis is needed to make it potable. Even with that process your returns gal to gal dont make it feasible. You waste more than you make. I may be off track some, its just what I have read from all of our water woes here. Toilet to tap like were doing here is where you get the most water return from.

[Tmag]

United Salt has a desalinization plant in Baytown that works two-fold. They sell the salt to their customers and the water goes to the chemical plant down the road.

[xman59]

Supposedly there is an "ocean" under San Antonio. Could end their water problems if they could get the salt out.

essentially the only thing that has to happen is evaporation ,,,, nothing really more complicated that a survival technique used by boy scouts and military,, a plastic sheet or tarp a hole a rock, it just needs to be large scale,,,, for a city the size of san antonio i would be hesitant to take to much more water from underground,,, even if it is salt water,, pump it out low enough and fresh will start to fill in, or sink holes develop,,, really need to make use of the gulf and oceans,,, not to mention the amount of salt that could be put to use,,,,

[xman59]

I think from studies done here where were running out of water, that the amount of water you actually recover gal/gal doesnt make it feasible. Some of the lakes around here have a real high salinity content where reveres osmosis is needed to make it potable. Even with that process your returns gal to gal dont make it feasible. You waste more than you make. I may be off track some, its just what I have read from all of our water woes here. Toilet to tap like were doing here is where you get the most water return from.

feasibility is of course a concern, but when we consider the amount of water that can be had,, when there is non makes it very feasible,,, i wonder if it there is any reason it could not be used on an "as need basis" which is another cause for the ocean water source to be used, instead of inland water?

going back to the feasibility ,,, how often does feasibility enter into anything the government is involved in? at least on the surface it looks like some return for our money,, instead of non as is most often the case

[60 Deluxe]

I am thinking that we need an interstate water pipeline system. The water from flooded areas could be moved to areas of the country that need the water. It would have to be big pipe, maybe twenty feet in diameter. The pumps would be huge. It would create lots of jobs for lots of years. They could take the money out of welfare and food stamp programs and put the poor unfortunate souls to work instead of sitting on their duffs.

Could you imagine the USA without an interstate highway system? It took lots of money and lots of time but we did it and it has paid back it's cost many times over in transportation cost savings.

[jds247]

Then Sam Rayburn and Toledo bend would look like lake Travis . I don't like the idea of shareing water .

[backwoods]

You've been told we have a water availability problem and everyone believes it out of fear, but the reality is that we have a water wasting problem.

We use way too much water to keep suburban lawns green.
The average Dallas resident uses 213 gallons of water per day, over half of which is for lawn irrigation. Imagine what 213 gallons of water looks like and let that sink in a little. How much water did our grandfathers and great grandfathers use? Even in 2011, the worst drought year in recorded Texas history, Dallas residents used 45% of their domestic water to keep their lawns green. Unbelievable.

The water availability problem that you hear about from the development board is based off inflated and unrealistic water wants in the future. These studies assume our highest demands and then factor an accelerated amount of water usage per person with an increasing population. They do not account for water conservation and restrictions. The reality is that through better technology, education, and in some cases restrictions, we are using less and less water per person than we did 10, 15, and 20 years ago. Therefore, our water demands arent nearly as high as some suggest.

In addition to this, many Texas reservoirs are underutilized (or not utilized at all) for domestic water. Wright Patman and Toledo Bend are excellent examples. Sam Rayburn is mainly classified as a storage lake so very little of that water is available for consumption. Texoma is allocated mainly to hydroelectric power and is far underutilized for consumption. These are simple regulation changes that could be made to bring about valuable change.

However, there is more money to be made in taking private land from farmers, ranchers, hunters, and our future generations and using it for building reservoirs and lake house lots rather than working with existing supplies. Look at who the Water Development Board is made up of, find out how they got selected for the board, and then look who their biggest financial contributors are and you will see a scary trend.

More reading:

http://legalpronews.findlaw.com/article/ab38f3ea4d3ec1737d822931bd6fe9a9#.U4UIFvldWgY

[KHoes203]

Just a quick note it's easier/ cheaper to desal brackish ground water than straight ocean water as about 1/2 the salinity. Something is going to have to happen soon.

[br549redneck]

You've been told we have a water availability problem and everyone believes it out of fear, but the reality is that we have a water wasting problem.

We use way too much water to keep suburban lawns green.
The average Dallas resident uses 213 gallons of water per day, over half of which is for lawn irrigation. Imagine what 213 gallons of water looks like and let that sink in a little. How much water did our grandfathers and great grandfathers use? Even in 2011, the worst drought year in recorded Texas history, Dallas residents used 45% of their domestic water to keep their lawns green. Unbelievable.

The water availability problem that you hear about from the development board is based off inflated and unrealistic water wants in the future. These studies assume our highest demands and then factor an accelerated amount of water usage per person with an increasing population. They do not account for water conservation and restrictions. The reality is that through better technology, education, and in some cases restrictions, we are using less and less water per person than we did 10, 15, and 20 years ago. Therefore, our water demands arent nearly as high as some suggest.

In addition to this, many Texas reservoirs are underutilized (or not utilized at all) for domestic water. Wright Patman and Toledo Bend are excellent examples. Sam Rayburn is mainly classified as a storage lake so very little of that water is available for consumption. Texoma is allocated mainly to hydroelectric power and is far underutilized for consumption. These are simple regulation changes that could be made to bring about valuable change.

However, there is more money to be made in taking private land from farmers, ranchers, hunters, and our future generations and using it for building reservoirs and lake house lots rather than working with existing supplies. Look at who the Water Development Board is made up of, find out how they got selected for the board, and then look who their biggest financial contributors are and you will see a scary trend.

More reading:
http://legalpronews.findlaw.com/arti...9#.U4UIFvldWgY

Were are not living in fear, we WILL run out of water if the drought continues another year. Thats enough to scare anyone if you think about it. We have been on some form of water restriction here for the past 4 years. I agree with you totally though on the amount of water used to keep a lawn green and lush and the amount that is wasted .

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[careybirdwell]

I am thinking that we need an interstate water pipeline system. The water from flooded areas could be moved to areas of the country that need the water. It would have to be big pipe, maybe twenty feet in diameter. The pumps would be huge. It would create lots of jobs for lots of years. They could take the money out of welfare and food stamp programs and put the poor unfortunate souls to work instead of sitting on their duffs.

Could you imagine the USA without an interstate highway system? It took lots of money and lots of time but we did it and it has paid back it's cost many times over in transportation cost savings.

I always thought this was a solution. Costly but a solution. I always thought when I see these towns flooding on the Mississippi & Missouri rivers that all that water could be piped to the west for drought stricken areas. If we can pipe oil all over the country, we should be able to send water where needed

[Hart8]

We waste alot of water.There should be restrictions year round.I have a neighbor that waters her 2 acres all day long sometimes..It's ridiculous