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    #1

    I thought I'd seen unreasonable corporate demands before...

    But wow. Just got a letter from a big fortune 500 customer that they had contracted with a "safety company" that I would need to pay a "nominal fee" to review my safety procedures and manuals, have all my employees watch their safety video, and I would have to completely open my books and safety programs to them for their "approval". The nominal fee? For my little company that may do 2 or 3 "emergency" service calls a year for them the fee was $250, to "sign up" and $1250 A YEAR to be a "member" with this "safety company". I simply refuse to be extorted like this and I can afford not to.

    They can kiss my lily white behind. And good luck finding qualified people that do what my little company does for them. Gonna suck for them when their plant is down and they are losing $20,000+ an hour and we won't be able to come out and save them because of their own stupid rules.
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    sign of the times.
    The largest growing department of my employer is the HSE dept. pure overhead but you cant work for the big boys w/o it.

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      #3
      Tell them you have a $1500 fee for procedure and manual reprinting.

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        #4
        Originally posted by cosmiccowboy View Post
        But wow. Just got a letter from a big fortune 500 customer that they had contracted with a "safety company" that I would need to pay a "nominal fee" to review my safety procedures and manuals, have all my employees watch their safety video, and I would have to completely open my books and safety programs to them for their "approval". The nominal fee? For my little company that may do 2 or 3 "emergency" service calls a year for them the fee was $250, to "sign up" and $1250 A YEAR to be a "member" with this "safety company". I simply refuse to be extorted like this and I can afford not to.

        They can kiss my lily white behind. And good luck finding qualified people that do what my little company does for them. Gonna suck for them when their plant is down and they are losing $20,000+ an hour and we won't be able to come out and save them because of their own stupid rules.

        have them send you a PO for the costs and your hands time to watch the film.
        We have several companies that have the same set up.
        They all pay for us to do it

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          #5
          Originally posted by cosmiccowboy View Post
          But wow. Just got a letter from a big fortune 500 customer that they had contracted with a "safety company" that I would need to pay a "nominal fee" to review my safety procedures and manuals, have all my employees watch their safety video, and I would have to completely open my books and safety programs to them for their "approval". The nominal fee? For my little company that may do 2 or 3 "emergency" service calls a year for them the fee was $250, to "sign up" and $1250 A YEAR to be a "member" with this "safety company". I simply refuse to be extorted like this and I can afford not to.
          Work it into the cost...they end up paying for it in the end. At least that what our vendors do to us.

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            #6
            If your little company has a $20,000/hr impact, it shouldn't be little.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Bily Lovec View Post
              sign of the times.
              The largest growing department of my employer is the HSE dept. pure overhead but you cant work for the big boys w/o it.
              It's not overhead. One properly managed case that does not result in a lawsuit and all at once it's profit. Or just on bad accident prevented...

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                #8
                Same thing happened to me with Anadarko. I had to use PEC to document my safety history, then after a year of that and paying all the test fee's for everybody and the yearly fee's to be a part of that website, Anadarko switched the company they are using. So all the vendors get to do everything again and pay all the fee' again. Average for me would have been $500-$1,000+ per employee plus a couple thousand to register with the new website.

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                  #9
                  Im a field service tech for a machine tool company, "Safety" is getting retarded some shops I go to its a hour of paper work to do a 15min job!

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                    #10
                    Wouldn't happen to be GE would it?

                    They tried to pull that with my company and I politely told them they would need to find another vendor. I fully expected to never hear from them again.

                    They found a way around it somehow and now just use a credit card to pay us upon each visit.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ty729 View Post
                      Wouldn't happen to be GE would it?

                      They tried to pull that with my company and I politely told them they would need to find another vendor. I fully expected to never hear from them again.

                      They found a way around it somehow and now just use a credit card to pay us upon each visit.
                      No, it's Pepsi. Guess from the responses it's not that unusual anymore.
                      Last edited by cosmiccowboy; 04-07-2014, 03:12 PM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by cosmiccowboy View Post
                        No, it's Pepsi. Guess from the responses it's not that unusual anymore.
                        No there's so much hoopla now..aka red compliance/safety tape that big companies have to comply with to stay out of the limelight its ridiculous. I would say its more extortion on the big company. In my case the major extortor would be the great state of California.

                        p.s. pepsi's still around? ...who new

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by cosmiccowboy View Post
                          No, it's Pepsi. Guess from the responses it's not that unusual anymore.
                          I suppose you have to decide if the volume of work is worth the hassle and expense.

                          Sometimes the paper work of just getting an invoice into the right hands is a major ordeal.

                          The only advantage of working for big companies is that nobody ever questions a bill amount which is nice! It ain't the persons money that is making the call, they just want the problem solved and out of their pile of things to do.

                          The safety BS is just someones ridiculous job that needs to be justified somehow.

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                            #14
                            We were in a similar circumstance the middle of last year. We were told we had to let an outside company come in and audit us for safety. Well the major company that told us we would have to comply got busy literally the next week. We now can hardly keep up with their production... and amazingly there hasn't been a safety audit. Coincidence, I'm not sure. What I can tell you is if they start slowing down I bet we get a phone call about the audit again. When that day comes... well, they will be in a world of hurt for parts. We have already decided they will have two weeks to come get their remaining parts before its all headed to the scrap yard!

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                              #15
                              Litigation and scam driven...

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