My parked car just got hit

[WCB]

10:00 sitting home sick and I hear a big bang. Go outside and my 03 Crown Vic is up on the curb and the front bumper/grill/fender on drivers side is totally smashed. The guy ran so I drove around the hood and found him. Forced him back to my house where DPD was waiting.
No DL, no insurance, registration out and inspection out...
Cops let him walk as he did return to the scene. Only because I made him though... At least "I'm" insured.

[jimmy o]

All to common now!!! If I did something like that they would put me under the jail. Sorry about your luck.

[tvc184]

If I could not positively identified him, there is no way that I would have let him walk. No ID that I recognize as valid and you are on your way to the county jail.

[Jrhummel6]

thats BS as they should have taken him in. He fled the sceen. what the hell!

[super_dave]

That stinks. And why was he allowed to drive off?

[systemnt]

If I could not positively identified him, there is no way that I would have let him walk. No ID that I recognize as valid and you are on your way to the county jail.

TV..asking seriously..because i dont know:
It against the law to not be able to identify yourself?
Is driving without an ID a jailable offense on its own merit?

wouldnt think you'd let him drive off..but.. jail? (even though i agree..he drove and hit a car.. go to jail..)

[EZ-10RANCH]

If I could not positively identified him, there is no way that I would have let him walk. No ID that I recognize as valid and you are on your way to the county jail.

What about leaving the scene of an accident along with not having DL, no registration and no insurance? Shouldn't he be arrested for all that as well?

[Tmag]

Hate to see this one Mike, ought not be your place to pay for the repairs when it was his fault. Hope your weekend is better than your Friday.

[Quackerbox]

What about leaving the scene of an accident along with not having DL, no registration and no insurance? Shouldn't he be arrested for all that as well?

Depends on the policy/dept. All I could do was write em tickets. Here that FSGI case is weak

[tvc184]

TV..asking seriously..because i dont know:
It against the law to not be able to identify yourself?
Is driving without an ID a jailable offense on its own merit?

wouldnt think you'd let him drive off..but.. jail? (even though i agree..he drove and hit a car.. go to jail..)

What about leaving the scene of an accident along with not having DL, no registration and no insurance? Shouldn't he be arrested for all that as well?

First off, I did not say that I would not have arrested him anyway. I only said that if he couldn't prove to me who he was, I would not let him walk because he promised me that he was giving the correct name. In my opinion he has already shown that he is not trustworthy (noting that I rarely trust anyone on the street) so I will not choose my option of issuing a citation which is essentially an arrest and being released on your own recognizance.

It is not against the law to not be able to identify yourself. Even if required (generally speaking, only during an arrest), you are only required to state your name, address and date of birth. It is kind of like being a prisoner of war and only having to state name, rank and serial number.

It is against the law to lie about your name, address or date of birth.

Driving without a valid driver's license is a valid arrest in TX and in fact, everything in TX is a valid reason for an arrest and being booked into the county (or city in rare instances) jail EXCEPT having an open alcohol container in the passenger compartment of a vehicle or speeding. This was reaffirmed by the SCOTUS in Atwater v. Lago Vista.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atwater_v._Lago_Vista

As far as this scene to clarify it, I can understand an officer only issuing citations if the suspect can positively be identified. I might have not given him that option but I know that I would not have if he remained anonymous other than "his word".

The leaving the scene of an accident with no injuries can be a Class C citation or a Class B (up to 6 months in jail) according to the amount of damage.

[expressfish]

(noting that I rarely trust anyone on the street) care to elaborate on that tv ? wcb, Id be furious if the acting office let him walk. Guess thats what full coverage is for.

[cj7zrcool]

(noting that I rarely trust anyone on the street) care to elaborate on that tv ?

In his position, I wouldn't either.



Sorry about your car, Mike.

[Bullydog]

(noting that I rarely trust anyone on the street) care to elaborate on that tv ?

https://www.odmp.org/

[systemnt]

First off, I did not say that I would not have arrested him anyway. I only said that if he couldn't prove to me who he was, I would not let him walk because he promised me that he was giving the correct name. In my opinion he has already shown that he is not trustworthy (noting that I rarely trust anyone on the street) so I will not choose my option of issuing a citation which is essentially an arrest and being released on your own recognizance.

It is not against the law to not be able to identify yourself. Even if required (generally speaking, only during an arrest), you are only required to state your name, address and date of birth. It is kind of like being a prisoner of war and only having to state name, rank and serial number.

It is against the law to lie about your name, address or date of birth.

Driving without a valid driver's license is a valid arrest in TX and in fact, everything in TX is a valid reason for an arrest and being booked into the county (or city in rare instances) jail EXCEPT having an open alcohol container in the passenger compartment of a vehicle or speeding. This was reaffirmed by the SCOTUS in Atwater v. Lago Vista.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atwater_v._Lago_Vista

As far as this scene to clarify it, I can understand an officer only issuing citations if the suspect can positively be identified. I might have not given him that option but I know that I would not have if he remained anonymous other than "his word".

The leaving the scene of an accident with no injuries can be a Class C citation or a Class B (up to 6 months in jail) according to the amount of damage.

in all fairness... you did say

"No ID that I recognize as valid and you are on your way to the county jail."

..which sure makes it SOUND like you would have arrested him........

I was not aware that "everything in TX is a valid reason for arrest".. kind of scary..

[tvc184]

(noting that I rarely trust anyone on the street) care to elaborate on that tv ?

Sure.

If I can't prove it, I will have my doubts. Let's say that I stop a deacon from the local church for speeding and he is a great guy and volunteers his time for the needy. He sees the red and blues in his rear view mirror and knows that he is going 70mph in a 55mph zone. When he is questioned about speeding and why he is in a hurry, he will likely say, "Gee, I never noticed that I was going that fast".

And that is from the "honest" guy.

It is not against anyone, it is just investigative experience. Listen but try to confirm.

Do I really care if an otherwise honest person lies about a traffic violation like not knowing that his inspection sticker it out when in truth, his wife told him three times last week to get it done? Not really. I might have fudged the truth when talking to the cops in my youth. But simply hearing someone say, "Trust me".... still means that I can't trust them.

If you were investigating a crime or trying to stay alive, would you simply take everything that you are told as fact?