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    What is the First Step to train a Weimaraner??

    Ok So I ahve taken in the 2 yo Weim as a rescue.

    He is some what collar conditioned (Previosly before I found him at the duck lease), but he has so much drive and energy that I cant get him fo focus. he will sit and say momentately.

    I do not want to ruin the dog so I have not done much with him. other than let him be a cool house dog.

    He is a very sweet loveable and caring dog but i want to be able to use him and let him do what he is breed to do.

    With all that said I own and trained my lab to be a great hunting dog and have won akc hunt test with him but this weim is very different.

    Any and all advice is gretly appreciated.

    Thanks

    #2
    Obedience training....sit, stay, heel, kennel, etc... Hunting is instinct. They either have it or they don't. You can fine tune it, but it's instinct to start with. Obedience training is a must. That said, Weims are not all the same. The show dog breeders have pretty much ruined their dogs. There are a lot of idiot dogs in those bloodlines. The hunting breeders' dogs are a lot better. They still look like Weimaraners and act like Weimaraners. The show dogs are different.

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      #3
      He has the drive to hunt!

      Obediance is killing me with him.

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        #4
        I'd pay your lab to train him.....

        Good luck!

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          #5
          Originally posted by topwater blowup View Post
          He has the drive to hunt!

          Obediance is killing me with him.
          Starting obedience training when a dog is 2 years old rather than when he's a puppy is the same as taking in a teenager that has never known discipline and trying to train them as well. It's a LOT easier when you start them from a very early age. Get a good book or video on obedience training and keep plugging. Keep sessions short every day. 15-20 minutes is plenty. Put them in positions to be successful as much as possible and reward it. He'll get there eventually.

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            #6
            Trade him on a different breed. Seriously I've been around several of them and never met a normal one that obeys.

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              #7
              Trade him on a different breed. Seriously I've been around several of them and never met a normal one that obeys.
              Thats funny! My wife would dis own me thats her baby.. id be better off with another lab.

              but he is such a kool dog.....
              Last edited by topwater blowup; 02-18-2014, 03:00 PM. Reason: spelling

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                #8
                We had a wiemer live to be 15 and was a great hunting dog that obeyed.

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                  #9
                  send him to a pro for 6 weeks of obedience then bring him home and have a go at training him to hunt yourself-lots of good books and videos out there.

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                    #10
                    I bought a old Geeman training book and the first sentence said (Buy a lash and a leash)

                    Good luck.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sticks&Strings View Post
                      Trade him on a different breed. Seriously I've been around several of them and never met a normal one that obeys.
                      That is so far from the truth it ain't funny. Very smart dogs and training them is accomplished in very short sessions. Unlike labs, they do not have a long attention span. But, they are VERY trainable. They can be a handful, no doubt. But you can't train them like you would a lab.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Puggy625 View Post
                        That is so far from the truth it ain't funny. Very smart dogs and training them is accomplished in very short sessions. Unlike labs, they do not have a long attention span. But, they are VERY trainable. They can be a handful, no doubt. But you can't train them like you would a lab.

                        I'm sure there are good ones, I've just yet to meet one. But on a serious note wasn't the Weimar a cross between a retriever and a pointer that was bred to become the ultimate hunting/bird dog...and it didn't pan out? Viszlas are about the same but smaller at least in my experience. My ex was a huge Weimeriener person and everyone had a personality deficiency of some sort and way too much energy. I live across the street from two and another lady here in my neighborhood has four and lets say watching them all walk their dogs also supports my opinion/ experience with them.

                        Best of luck to you. Hope yours is better. Btw, I really like their look for what its worth

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sticks&Strings View Post
                          I'm sure there are good ones, I've just yet to meet one. But on a serious note wasn't the Weimar a cross between a retriever and a pointer that was bred to become the ultimate hunting/bird dog...and it didn't pan out? Viszlas are about the same but smaller at least in my experience. My ex was a huge Weimeriener person and everyone had a personality deficiency of some sort and way too much energy. I live across the street from two and another lady here in my neighborhood has four and lets say watching them all walk their dogs also supports my opinion/ experience with them.

                          Best of luck to you. Hope yours is better. Btw, I really like their look for what its worth
                          I've never hunted with a Wiem but I've talked to a few people that have. Every one of them has said that they were the best pointing dog they've ever hunted over. As with many breeds, a lot of the "hunting instincts" have been bred out of the line. Many labs are a good example. My personal opinion is that it wasn't that it "didn't pan out" as you said, but more along the lines of breeding for "show" instead of hunting lines. Not to say that just because a dog comes from good hunting lines is going to make them good or not either. I have duck hunted over some "field trial champion" labs that I wouldn't give you a plug nickel for. Some of the best I've seen/experienced have been from "backyard breeders" (not talking about puppy mills either). Training and knowing how to train a particular breed comes into play, especially with Wiems. They aren't the right dog for everybody. Definitely agree with that. And mine isn't perfect even as a family pet (that's all he is), but, everybody that has been around him has said that a Wiem will be the next dog they get. Everybody loves him. They definitely are "goofy" at times that's for sure. lol But, very lovable and affectionate dogs.
                          Last edited by Puggy625; 02-18-2014, 04:18 PM.

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                            #14
                            Step 1. Sell weim and buy a hunting breed.

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