Hogs are a problem But...

[Saddle Tramp]

First off let me say I have no problem with a land owner charging what ever they want for the use of their land. My family has leased in the past.
This mourning I was at the lumberyard and over heard a man telling the guy helping him that the pigs on his place were a big problem, starting to come up around his house and barns. Now hes spending 900 dollars on a fence.
After he finished I introduce myself and told him that I might be able to help him. I ask how much land he had he said about 1200 acres. I told him I could put together a group of 4 to 5 bow hunters one or two times a month for a hog hunt. We discuss getting release forms signed, keeping camp area clean (it is leased to gun hunters in deer season) so on and so forth. He said taking out 10 to 20 sows a month would really help.
At the end he said " I think a 100 dollars a day per man would be reasonable don't you". I told him that I was thinking may 400 dollars flat rate. Come in on Friday night hunt Sat. and half day Sunday clean up and go.
He said that wouldn't work at all. I left my phone number thanked him for his time and left.
Once again not saying anything bad about land owners, however if the problems are bad and getting worse they might consider making it alittle easier for hunters to ease the problem.
Just my thoughts. What do you folks think.

[popup_menace]

I think that a lot of these people use hogs as a scapegoat for trying to get people to hunt their land. A lot of guys looking to sell hunts will say how bad hogs are just to hook the hunter into thinking there are extreme numbers on the property so that the hunter is more inclined to pay a premium. I don't really care what they do though, because I'm not paying anything to shoot hogs regardless of my situation. In fact, I'm getting to a point where I want to just save up for a piece of land to call my own

[southtx]

His land... He can charge what he wants

[Dirtymike]

100 bucks for a weekend camping hunting trip does not sound bad. You can spend close to that just camping two nights. Plus he is taking on the risk of the DA factor.

[Bumpy]

A 100 is the cheapest id charge if I knew guys would have guaranteed kills. People who don't own land don't get what it costs to buy the land, pay taxes, costs for fencing , etc. people can't just give stuff away in life.

[Smokeater]

I guess when they become enough of a problem and they tear up his new fence, he'll be more negotiable. If I needed help gitn rid of a problem like that, I wouldn't charge regular huntin' rates!

[cshall999]

I guess when they become enough of a problem and they tear up his new fence, he'll be more negotiable. If I needed help gitn rid of a problem like that, I wouldn't charge regular huntin' rates!

I have to agree with this, but it is his land and he is free to charge what he wants. I guess he isn't too bothered by the hogs or he would have said "Sure, I won't charge you unless you mess something up...please kill as many as you can and make it better for my deer that is what brings in my money."

But again it is his land.

[Saddle Tramp]

Let me make it clear 100 dollars a day he said. Making what he wanted was 200 per person for the weekend, Sat. and half Sun.
Not bashing any land owner just seems like no matter how bad you hear it is it still rather costly for the hunter to try and do their part which is the only real way this problem will ever be controlled.

[trophy8]

Let me make it clear 100 dollars a day he said. Making what he wanted was 200 per person for the weekend, Sat. and half Sun.
Not bashing any land owner just seems like no matter how bad you hear it is it still rather costly for the hunter to try and do their part which is the only real way this problem will ever be controlled.

No.... you have to be a pretty dang good hunter to keep numbers in check by just hunting them.... I mean really, look at all the guys on here who hog hunt all the time and kill just a few a year.

[Charles]

I hear and understand what you're saying. However, hunting (especially bow hunting) hogs is the least effective way in controlling their population IMO.

[Horitexan]

A 100 is the cheapest id charge if I knew guys would have guaranteed kills. People who don't own land don't get what it costs to buy the land, pay taxes, costs for fencing , etc. people can't just give stuff away in life.

Understand what you're saying and I totally agree that you, certainly, have the right to charge whatever you please for access to your land. I don't think that's the issue that the OP was making.

The point is; all these farmers who COMPLAIN about how much money they're LOSING due to feral hogs and then, when you ask about helping them with their problem, suddenly get dollar signs I'm their eyes; and totally IGNORE the income you are adding by eliminating these supposes losses. IF, in fact, they are having a "real" problem, there's value in the reduction/elimination of the problem that should be calculated into any fees. Furthermore, if you're having such a bad problem that hogs are decimating your crops (as some people claim) then, clearly, they're unable to solve the problem themselves. If they could have solved it themselves, they would have. The IRONY is that feral hogs are always a "problem" at the lunch counter or a the 'farmers table' at your local restaurant BUT, away from there they, they suddenly become a "commodity."

It's not like the OP was trying to hunt for free. He was offering $400/weekend ON TOP of helping out with the hog "problem." Imagine how fast you'd take your truck to a mechanic that offered to fix your truck AND pay you $400 for the privilege! What kind if idiot would scoff at that deal and demand more money?

Guys who TRULY have a hog problem PAY people to come in and trap them or shoot them from helicopters. Just like people pay $$ for guys (and gals) to kill predators on their property. Many of the properties that I call for predators pay a bounty for coyotes and bobcats; because I'm increasing their bottom line by reducing livestock losses. Most of the people that gripe about hogs are full of horse manure and are just jumping on the bandwagon to complain about something.

This isn't a question about a landowner's RIGHT to charge money for hunting - it's about how full of dung a lot of people are.

[cookemerkel]

His land... He can charge what he wants

Great insight

Understand what you're saying and I totally agree that you, certainly, have the right to charge whatever you please for access to your land. I don't think that's the issue that the OP was making.

The point is; all these farmers who COMPLAIN about how much money they're LOSING due to feral hogs and then, when you ask about helping them with their problem, suddenly get dollar signs I'm their eyes; and totally IGNORE the income you are adding by eliminating these supposes losses. IF, in fact, they are having a "real" problem, there's value in the reduction/elimination of the problem that should be calculated into any fees. Furthermore, if you're having such a bad problem that hogs are decimating your crops (as some people claim) then, clearly, they're unable to solve the problem themselves. If they could have solved it themselves, they would have. The IRONY is that feral hogs are always a "problem" at the lunch counter or a the 'farmers table' at your local restaurant BUT, away from there they, they suddenly become a "commodity."

It's not like the OP was trying to hunt for free. He was offering $400/weekend ON TOP of helping out with the hog "problem." Imagine how fast you'd take your truck to a mechanic that offered to fix your truck AND pay you $400 for the privilege! What kind if idiot would scoff at that deal and demand more money?

Guys who TRULY have a hog problem PAY people to come in and trap them or shoot them from helicopters. Just like people pay $$ for guys (and gals) to kill predators on their property. Many of the properties that I call for predators pay a bounty for coyotes and bobcats; because I'm increasing their bottom line by reducing livestock losses. Most of the people that gripe about hogs are full of horse manure and are just jumping on the bandwagon to complain about something.

This isn't a question about a landowner's RIGHT to charge money for hunting - it's about how full of dung a lot of people are.

My thoughts exactly.

[JDH875]

Understand what you're saying and I totally agree that you, certainly, have the right to charge whatever you please for access to your land. I don't think that's the issue that the OP was making.

The point is; all these farmers who COMPLAIN about how much money they're LOSING due to feral hogs and then, when you ask about helping them with their problem, suddenly get dollar signs I'm their eyes; and totally IGNORE the income you are adding by eliminating these supposes losses. IF, in fact, they are having a "real" problem, there's value in the reduction/elimination of the problem that should be calculated into any fees. Furthermore, if you're having such a bad problem that hogs are decimating your crops (as some people claim) then, clearly, they're unable to solve the problem themselves. If they could have solved it themselves, they would have. The IRONY is that feral hogs are always a "problem" at the lunch counter or a the 'farmers table' at your local restaurant BUT, away from there they, they suddenly become a "commodity."

It's not like the OP was trying to hunt for free. He was offering $400/weekend ON TOP of helping out with the hog "problem." Imagine how fast you'd take your truck to a mechanic that offered to fix your truck AND pay you $400 for the privilege! What kind if idiot would scoff at that deal and demand more money?

Guys who TRULY have a hog problem PAY people to come in and trap them or shoot them from helicopters. Just like people pay $$ for guys (and gals) to kill predators on their property. Many of the properties that I call for predators pay a bounty for coyotes and bobcats; because I'm increasing their bottom line by reducing livestock losses. Most of the people that gripe about hogs are full of horse manure and are just jumping on the bandwagon to complain about something.

This isn't a question about a landowner's RIGHT to charge money for hunting - it's about how full of dung a lot of people are.

Well said Sir.

[Vermin93]

If I were you I probably would have said - "No thanks. Good luck with the hogs. Call me if you change your mind."

[AJ the TP Guru]

No.... you have to be a pretty dang good hunter to keep numbers in check by just hunting them.... I mean really, look at all the guys on here who hog hunt all the time and kill just a few a year.

Exactly! Trapping is the only way to really keep them down.

The landowner can do as he pleases, but he really doesn't have a hog problem if his solution is to charge bowhunters for coming on his property.