Cattle lease guys chime in

[jds247]

I understand why everyone is saying wildlife exemption , but from a land owners stand point I don't want my land growing up in brush and trees . You couldn't pay me to let that happen in my pastures . The cows are needed to keep the grass down unless you like pulling a mower .

[Bumpy]

Don't forget about feeding them cows keep em as tame as possible or when its time to pen em you will have to get some real cowboys and dogs to put em in the trailer for you come sell time....lot of work imo.

This is the truth. On my dad's place he feeds his cows daily. He has some young bulls that are separate. Have been in this area since young. He can go in there and pet them. I'm always nervous because they play with him but his 200lb body isn't the same as there's.

[ducks-and-bucks]

What everyone has failed to mention is you have a two year grace period that you dont have to have cows on the place... theres no hurry.... with a wildlife or ag exemptuon you have to be able to show income!!.... ai dont think it cuts it just trying to do a wildlife exemption... there has to be money off of wildlife being made....

Truth is... how many times does someone come out to your place to count how many cows you have to make sure your in compliance with the ag exemption? I havent seen or heard of it once... get rid of cows and if you are going to get audited borrow some cows. You receive a latter in the mail before an audit anyways.. which again you will probably never be audited.

[SJPrice]

What everyone has failed to mention is you have a two year grace period that you dont have to have cows on the place... theres no hurry.... with a wildlife or ag exemptuon you have to be able to show income!!.... ai dont think it cuts it just trying to do a wildlife exemption... there has to be money off of wildlife being made....

Truth is... how many times does someone come out to your place to count how many cows you have to make sure your in compliance with the ag exemption? I havent seen or heard of it once... get rid of cows and if you are going to get audited borrow some cows. You receive a latter in the mail before an audit anyways.. which again you will probably never be audited.

The only problem is, paper cows do not keep the pastures clean. On the other hand, with no cattle you could set the land up with food plots and bedding areas that would probably improve your hunting lease ten fold by drawing deer from surrounding areas.

[Rickk]

Your owner needs to put his property under wildlife exemption and be done with leasing for grazing to keep his ag exemptions.

^^^X2

[txnduckhntr]

How do you come up with these numbers? We are thinking of doing the same thing with some family land. 180 acres worth leased at $1000 per year. If you would like me to PM you so I don't hijack the thread I can do that also. Thanks!

I threw my paper away.

107x15$ac=1035 per year lease x2years=2070 bucks lease for 2years

5 3in1 pairs @1700=8500 for cattle.
first year sell 5 calves avg 500lbs each. if and a big if prices stay high, those five ought to bring 4k.

next year repeat another 4k

sell your 5 mama cows for another 4k.

plus writing off gas feed(corn) labor wire tposts etc.

its basically a free lease with benefits


I did figure this in my head before I've had coffee and Copenhagen this morning so check with a calculator

[txnduckhntr]

I understand why everyone is saying wildlife exemption , but from a land owners stand point I don't want my land growing up in brush and trees . You couldn't pay me to let that happen in my pastures . The cows are needed to keep the grass down unless you like pulling a mower .

x2

cattle and deer eat 2 entirely different classes of plants

wildlife exempt IMHO is a good way to diminish your property values over the ling term unlike good agriculture practices which usually improve values

[denowt]

I understand why everyone is saying wildlife exemption , but from a land owners stand point I don't want my land growing up in brush and trees . You couldn't pay me to let that happen in my pastures . The cows are needed to keep the grass down unless you like pulling a mower .

x2

cattle and deer eat 2 entirely different classes of plants

wildlife exempt IMHO is a good way to diminish your property values over the ling term unlike good agriculture practices which usually improve values

Exactly.
Land with nice open hayfields will usually be worth a lot more than land with overgrown brush.

[Dusty Britches]

I threw my paper away.

107x15$ac=1035 per year lease x2years=2070 bucks lease for 2years

5 3in1 pairs @1700=8500 for cattle.
first year sell 5 calves avg 500lbs each. if and a big if prices stay high, those five ought to bring 4k.

next year repeat another 4k

sell your 5 mama cows for another 4k.

plus writing off gas feed(corn) labor wire tposts etc.

its basically a free lease with benefits


I did figure this in my head before I've had coffee and Copenhagen this morning so check with a calculator

Replacement heifers are running $1200 and 3n1's are over $2000. Of course, 5 weight calves are bringing $700+.

If you really want to go the cattle lease option, make sure that permanent structure materials (fences, working pens, and barns) are the responsibility of the landowner.

Get the lease in writting and have a real estate attorney look at it - perferrably one who specializes in cattle leases.

[JeffJ]

Sold these calves yesterday. We got them in April as early weaned calves. Probably paid about $450 each for them. I have about $1.50/wk in each of them for feed, etc.

[txnduckhntr]

those blk steers at 2.08 makes you wish you had 100 huh?

[JeffJ]

those blk steers at 2.08 makes you wish you had 100 huh?

EXACTLY what I just told my dad.