What if ?? LAMPS or MLD

[Tequilazo]

1800 acres MLDIII and not looking back. The biologist comes out when we invite him to answers questions and offer his advice based on the survey info we provide and what he sees around us. Camera surveys have made us venture into areas that we were not going into prior to becoming management minded as a collective group. It has definitely improved our deer heard.

[aclark0495]

What kind of numbers are you turning in on your deer count to get 7 doe tags if you don't think the population can handle that many being killed?

If you're only going to kill 2 does, why do you take 7 tags?

We take what they give us and manage it like we see fit.

We don't hunt that hard either is one reason we don't shoot to many does. We are the epitome of Deer Camp Socialization. LOL

[JeffJ]

Also, as an example, if you get 10 doe and 5 buck permits via MLD and you kill 8 does and 4 bucks no one is going to get in trouble. Now if you shoot less than half your permits for several years in a row it might get you a few questions and maybe a meeting with the bio. Last year I think we had 10 buck permits and we only killed 6 if I remember correctly. We shot two trophies and four mgt deer. After that we couldnt find any more mgt deer we felt needed to go. This was backed up by our private bio. The TPWD bio never questioned it. This year if we can find two mgt deer that have gone nocturnal we will shoot our 8 bucks.

[Shane]

What does it cost for a helicopter survey?

[denowt]

We are on LAMPS. We get 1 doe permit for every 100 acres. Since we manage 750 acres, we get 7 permits. We also only shoot 2 to 3 does a year.
Why?
This way we can shoot them ANY time of the season and not having to rely on the first 2 weeks of the season which is our doe days.
For the OP, we been on LAMPS as far as I can remember. Never had any kind of State employee show up or come in on our place. My brother just fills out some paper work each year and we get tags. There has been a lot of times we never used one tag.

We take what they give us and manage it like we see fit.

We don't hunt that hard either is one reason we don't shoot to many does. We are the epitome of Deer Camp Socialization. LOL

I understand how the LAMPS tags work.
My question is why do you take so many tags when you know you're not going to use them all?
Why not give them back so others could possibly receive them?

Here, in Lavaca County, they give out roughly 1 doe tag per 50 acres.
We missed the deadline because we got on a DeWitt county lease too late this year, but if Dewitt does it similar, we should get 7-8 doe tags next year.
8 does shot will not make much of a difference when we have 20+ showing up at 2 different blinds at the same time.
Even if we shoot all 8, and only half of the remaining 30 or so does have only a single fawn survive next year, the population will still increase by 15 or so.
If half of those 15 are does, then we're back to the original doe population.
If the neighbors don't get tags at all or don't shoot what they're supposed to, then there will be even more next year.

[popup_menace]

MLD permits are the only reason I have ever killed a deer. I started the program for our ranch, and have been able to take a doe every year since then. We have practically no bucks and quite a few doe, so it is nice knowing that even though I am in a no doe county, I can still manage my herd through MLD.

[M16]

What does it cost for a helicopter survey?

Mine was $320 per hour plus a $1.50 per mile for travel fee. For 2500 acres it took 1.5 hours to fly. Total cost was around $550. We coordinate with two other neighbors and all places get flown the same day.

[SouthTX1911]

Can someone give a general run down how one would go about getting MLD on 850acres in Montgomery Co? PM if ya want so we dont hijack. Thanks in advance for any advice.

[BowSlayer]

I understand how the LAMPS tags work.
My question is why do you take so many tags when you know you're not going to use them all?
Why not give them back so others could possibly receive them?

Here, in Lavaca County, they give out roughly 1 doe tag per 50 acres.
We missed the deadline because we got on a DeWitt county lease too late this year, but if Dewitt does it similar, we should get 7-8 doe tags next year.
8 does shot will not make much of a difference when we have 20+ showing up at 2 different blinds at the same time.
Even if we shoot all 8, and only half of the remaining 30 or so does have only a single fawn survive next year, the population will still increase by 15 or so.
If half of those 15 are does, then we're back to the original doe population.
If the neighbors don't get tags at all or don't shoot what they're supposed to, then there will be even more next year.

Give them back so others can receive them? It doesn't work like that. There isn't a set number of tags and once they run out that's it. If you have the acreage you can get the tags whether he takes 7 or 70.

[BowSlayer]

Can someone give a general run down how one would go about getting MLD on 850acres in Montgomery Co? PM if ya want so we dont hijack. Thanks in advance for any advice.

Best bet is to call the TP&W Biologist for your County. That's what we did. Around here they have a 1000 acre minimum to get into the program but that might not be the case in your County.

[Dushon]

Best bet is to call the TP&W Biologist for your County. That's what we did. Around here they have a 1000 acre minimum to get into the program but that might not be the case in your County.

Yuuppp. Pretty easy