Failure to display CHL

[Sackett]

She is packin, trust me.

...and she's loaded 'fer Baarr!

[sdfrench]

I'm really fretting this for some reason...anyways..Got a ticket for speeding in Brazos county..For whatever reason, he asked me to get out of my car and go to the rear of the vehicle. He then asks me to sit in his car. Well, on my ticket he has "Fail to Diplay CHL with weapon onboard" in the Special conditions line.....it's not on the violation 1 or 2 line but in special conditions....Anyone know what this means? Does this mean they will try and suspend my license?

This is kind of a raw deal especially since I was A) Traveling B) Cant you legally carry in your vehicle now?

Anyone else had this experience?

Yes, you will likely get your license suspended. We covered this at length in my CHL and CHL renewal class. My wallet has a removable holder that has two places for cards. One has my DL and the other my CHL. I pull out the removable holder and both miraculously come out of my wallet together.

If you get your CHL back, I suggest you do something similar and review the laws again.

[Tommyh]

Is there a possibility of regaining it once it is suspended or is it considered revoked for good?

[Bowfish]

And while we are on this subject...do not drink and CARRY! They will throw you under the jail! No, it hasn't happened to me but it struck home while in class.

[Burnadell]

Well, the weapon was in my tackle box in the back of my vehicle. Never were my intentions to conceal the fact that I had my CHL from the officer...come on, we all know that they know! He asked for my license, I handed it to him, never thinking about my CHL. Don't really know what I'm going to do until I determine how this will play out with the officer. In researching, it appears the officer has to submit a form to the DPS for Recommedation of Suspension/Revocation. Would'nt it seem he would confiscate the license immediately upon my failure to present??

I feel like a "common criminal" now for a traffic ticket that's going to cost me a chunk of change!

Just curious, did he give a reason for searching your vehicle? What was his probable cause?

[DavisHollow]

Rather silly to not show him your CHL. ALWAYS hand over your CHL, even if not carrying. It is certification that you are not a convicted felon, and not currently under felony indictment. Just stupid to not show it.

Chillax, the penalty for 1st offense is 30 day suspension, no big deal, just learn from the mistake.

The Castle Doctrine doesn't remove any of your CHL requirements. You have a CHL, you are required to display it. Really butt-simple. Yes it makes sense that now, under new law, you shouldn't have to, but that's not what the law says. It simply makes no sense that you didn't display your CHL as required by law.

My CHL instructor covered this in last renewal, said it's pretty simple, the law is clear, you are required to display CHL when asked for ID from LEO.

I'll add one complication. You can carry in your vehicle without CHL under new law. Blood alcohol level can be up to 0.08 I think. With CHL, it has to be 0.0, you are allowed to have zero alcohol in system while carrying. Think about it. Do you have less rights with CHL? The law is not clear.

[DavisHollow]

Is there a possibility of regaining it once it is suspended or is it considered revoked for good?

The way the CHL law is written, you can't be intoxicated. Since there is no definition of intoxicated, it means in legal terms, NO ALCOHOL, 0.0. It's a felony to be intoxicated while carrying a concealed weapon. So one drink and CHL in car, you're a felon.

My question is under the new law, as long as you are not legally drunk for driving, 0.08%, then you can have it in your vehicle while you drive. So you lose some rights with CHL license? You're a felon under CHL, but not under new law?

[Bucknasty]

Just curious, did he give a reason for searching your vehicle? What was his probable cause?

He never searched my vehicle...however, he did make me step to the back of the vehicle and then asked my to sit in his car. Dispatched confirmed I was warrant-free and stated Valid Texas CHL. He then asked where the weapon was...I told him, and stated my license was in the vehicle that he removed me from. A weapon was not "on or about my person"....technically, I was not carrying~ Will just wait and see..Looking at my traffic ticket, it was not in the violation/warning box but in the 'other condition". Still not sure what will become of it.....I'll fight and use as many state resources necessary to keep a suspension from being on my record.

I never carry on my person, so really this is all a bunch of BS over the formality of me not handing him two licenses instead of one....I'll pay the piper and move on. I did it, I 'll handle it.

[Bucknasty]

The bike chick don't have a CHL


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Dang- I have always loved that pic!

[CrookedArrow]

As an LEO and reading all the above, I agree with all of them Hope this helps

[SabreKiller]

You only have to display...

your CHL if you are carrying the weapon, period. However, it would be nice if you told the officer that you have a CHL and aren't carrying. We appreciate that. Most of us realize that 99% of CHL carriers are good folks and don't intend us harm and we know that dirt bags don't have CHL's. You're license cannot be suspended until you have been convicted of not displaying your license while carrying at least once.