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    #16
    I really think that you might want to cover up the level on your sight.
    These little devices attached to sights these days are more of a distraction than a help.
    Bow hunting is very simple if you simply focus on a target. Seems to me that you see a target animal, draw, get the pin on target then ad steps like making sure the level is right your just asking for trouble. I shot compounds for many years befor going trad. All I ever did was draw, pin placement and shoot probably about 5-10 sec at most.
    In trad, focus on spot draw and shoot all in one smooth motion.
    Don't make it harder than it has to be with worrying about unimportant stuff

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      #17
      I agree. 20ft up at 13 yds would not have thrown your shot off. I have an arc range finder and it doesn't change.

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        #18
        A squared plus B squared = C squared the old 3, 4, 5 triangle. Always worked and always will. Mother nature and a host of mathameticians will verify.

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          #19
          Third axis has nothing to do with the Pythagorean Theorem. The third axis is the relationship of your sight bubble's left or right edge being closer than the opposing edge creating a misrepresentation of plumb with up or downhill angled shots.

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            #20
            I've been bow hunting for over 35 years and I don'y anything about this 3rd axis stuff. What I do know is that I have hunted from 10 feet high to 25 feet high. I have shot deer from 5 yards to 41 yards. If you bend at the waist, make sure all you anchor points are in the correct position, aim with the correct pin, squeeze the trigger, then the arrow will hit where you are aiming. In extreme angles and distances the choice of pins will make a difference but not left to right hitting.

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              #21
              Originally posted by quackaholic1 View Post
              I've been bow hunting for over 35 years and I don'y anything about this 3rd axis stuff. What I do know is that I have hunted from 10 feet high to 25 feet high. I have shot deer from 5 yards to 41 yards. If you bend at the waist, make sure all you anchor points are in the correct position, aim with the correct pin, squeeze the trigger, then the arrow will hit where you are aiming. In extreme angles and distances the choice of pins will make a difference but not left to right hitting.
              THIS^^

              Carry on.

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                #22
                Finally someone said what really matters....

                if you are standing, bend at the waist.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by keep View Post
                  The amount for me at 20-30 yds and 20ft in a tree is miniscule. Draw put the pin where it goes and dump the string.
                  The 3rd axis comes into play on steep angled shots which is more of a western thing.
                  Few will hunt a tree high enough and shoot a far enough difference for it to matter in Texas
                  Bingo!
                  :thumbup:




                  Originally posted by flywise View Post
                  I really think that you might want to cover up the level on your sight.
                  These little devices attached to sights these days are more of a distraction than a help.
                  Bow hunting is very simple if you simply focus on a target. Seems to me that you see a target animal, draw, get the pin on target then ad steps like making sure the level is right your just asking for trouble. I shot compounds for many years befor going trad. All I ever did was draw, pin placement and shoot probably about 5-10 sec at most.
                  In trad, focus on spot draw and shoot all in one smooth motion.
                  Don't make it harder than it has to be with worrying about unimportant stuff

                  I agree. The only reason I dont cover mine is I never used it so I dont pay attention to it.




                  Originally posted by JakeGraves View Post
                  Third axis has nothing to do with the Pythagorean Theorem. The third axis is the relationship of your sight bubble's left or right edge being closer than the opposing edge creating a misrepresentation of plumb with up or downhill angled shots.
                  The what?!?!






                  Originally posted by quackaholic1 View Post
                  I've been bow hunting for over 35 years and I don'y anything about this 3rd axis stuff. What I do know is that I have hunted from 10 feet high to 25 feet high. I have shot deer from 5 yards to 41 yards. If you bend at the waist, make sure all you anchor points are in the correct position, aim with the correct pin, squeeze the trigger, then the arrow will hit where you are aiming. In extreme angles and distances the choice of pins will make a difference but not left to right hitting.
                  Smart man!

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                    #24
                    I believe in the third axis and have seen things get squirley in steep terrain with longer distances. I have seen third axis be way off. I stand on a ladder at full draw and line up with a plumb bob. I shoot axcel armortech sights and did the same with my old spott Hogg sights. I bet most whitetail hunters and flatland guys would never know what this is or have it matter. If mojo rider found the answer and has confidence then I say more power to him. Use this new knowledge , center the pin and go kill a big buck!

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ragin' View Post
                      Water Melon Red Super Fluke!
                      Willow leaf, tandem blade, single blade, crank bait, buzz bait, texas or carolina rig!?! That's why I fish saltwater: put a shrimp or croaker on a circle hook and go catch fish.

                      This stuff makes my head hurt. And it takes the fun out of (bow)hunting.

                      Sorry you lost your deer. Hopefully next time it works out better for you.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by docmay View Post
                        I believe in the third axis and have seen things get squirley in steep terrain with longer distances. I have seen third axis be way off. I stand on a ladder at full draw and line up with a plumb bob. I shoot axcel armortech sights and did the same with my old spott Hogg sights. I bet most whitetail hunters and flatland guys would never know what this is or have it matter. If mojo rider found the answer and has confidence then I say more power to him. Use this new knowledge , center the pin and go kill a big buck!

                        I used it when I shot competition. On my whitetail rig on don't worry with it. If I hunted western type terrain or shot animals at long range I would definitely set it.




                        Originally posted by Etxbuckman View Post
                        Willow leaf, tandem blade, single blade, crank bait, buzz bait, texas or carolina rig!?! That's why I fish saltwater: put a shrimp or croaker on a circle hook and go catch fish.

                        This stuff makes my head hurt. And it takes the fun out of (bow)hunting.

                        Sorry you lost your deer. Hopefully next time it works out better for you.
                        Lol on the shrimp n croaker!

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                          #27
                          Here's the good news, whether the adjustment of the 3rd axis was the culprit or not.
                          Now, you're practicing with more confidence.
                          You sound like an intellectual type simply because you've done this amount of research after losing your first deer, so keep in mind that in hunting ,(especially bowhunting) , things don't run along prescribed plans or theories, and misses are caused more by user error than equipment issues. Some bowhunters simply overthink the process.
                          Practice hard, hunt hard, understand where you need to hit the deer to kill it, put your pin where you want to hit the deer, and squeeze the trigger.
                          It is really not as hard as manufacturers of gadgets make it out to be.

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                            #28
                            To add more confusion to the mix there is actually a 4th axis

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by rocky View Post
                              Here's the good news, whether the adjustment of the 3rd axis was the culprit or not.
                              Now, you're practicing with more confidence.
                              You sound like an intellectual type simply because you've done this amount of research after losing your first deer, so keep in mind that in hunting ,(especially bowhunting) , things don't run along prescribed plans or theories, and misses are caused more by user error than equipment issues. Some bowhunters simply overthink the process.
                              Practice hard, hunt hard, understand where you need to hit the deer to kill it, put your pin where you want to hit the deer, and squeeze the trigger.
                              It is really not as hard as manufacturers of gadgets make it out to be.
                              Awesome piece of advice there! I really do appreciate everyone's comments and I hope to be posting a new thread soon with LDPs!

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by rocky View Post
                                Here's the good news, whether the adjustment of the 3rd axis was the culprit or not.
                                Now, you're practicing with more confidence.
                                You sound like an intellectual type simply because you've done this amount of research after losing your first deer, so keep in mind that in hunting ,(especially bowhunting) , things don't run along prescribed plans or theories, and misses are caused more by user error than equipment issues. Some bowhunters simply overthink the process.
                                Practice hard, hunt hard, understand where you need to hit the deer to kill it, put your pin where you want to hit the deer, and squeeze the trigger.
                                It is really not as hard as manufacturers of gadgets make it out to be.
                                Bingo!!!!!!!

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