Repeated GFCI trip?

[doeslayer_08]

Replace it with a normal receptacle, you don't want your freezer on a GFI anyways...

This is a bad idea. You should replace it with another GFCI and double line it so that if it trips everything else an the circuitwill remain hot.

[txpitdog]

Many thanks ya'll! I'll get my wife to do a live "following the ambulance to the hospital" thread if something goes horribly wrong.

[systemnt]

This is a bad idea. You should replace it with another GFCI and double line it so that if it trips everything else an the circuitwill remain hot.

That would defeat the purpose of having a GFCI circuit....

[csmetreyeon]

That would defeat the purpose of having a GFCI circuit....

^X2

[doeslayer_08]

That would defeat the purpose of having a GFCI circuit....

The circuit is not GFCI, the plug is. It keep from killing power down the line. If it needs to be a GFI circuit than it would require a GFCI breaker.

[gargetter]

there you have it..
5 out of 5 Journeyman polled all said they would replace the GFCI.
thats better than dentists picking a toothpaste!

And one Master Electrian as well.Best place to start.DO NOT REPLACE WITH STANDARD PLUG!!!

[Gummi Bear]

GFCI's don't like motor startup loads.

The one and only receptacle in your garage allowed to not be a GFI is for the freezer. A GFI is designed for personnell protection, not equipment protection

Houses are wired as cheaply as possible to meet code. The old saying "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" applies here.


I strongly disapprove of wiring a GFI in series, it is lazy, cheap, and always leads to troubles. This would be putting one in the garage to protect everything down line.

I wire them in as "location only" and put one in each appropriate opening. This prevents troubles in the future, and reduces the load on the device circuitry.

Have an electrician buy several new ones, and put them in the kitchen, bathrooms, and outside locations. Put the freezer on a standard 'simplex' receptacle so nobody can plug anything else in on that opening.


No poll here, I am a master electrician.

[Rockjock]

The circuit is not GFCI, the plug is. It keep from killing power down the line. If it needs to be a GFI circuit than it would require a GFCI breaker.

I am not following you and this doesn't sound right. I am not an electrician so maybe one will chime in. If I have a GFCI circuit in my bathroom only one plug may be an actual GFCI outlet but I still want every plug in the circuit and in my bathroom protected by the one GFCI outlet. Why in the world would I rig the GFCI to not protect my other outlets? I would not do this in my bathroom, kitchen or outdoor plugs. I might consider converting a garage but that is the only place. This may be bad to do also.

[systemnt]

The circuit is not GFCI, the plug is. It keep from killing power down the line. If it needs to be a GFI circuit than it would require a GFCI breaker.

When a GFCI Plug trips... what happens to the rest of the plugs on that circuit? They go dead because they are behind the GFCI plug in the circuit.

Hence the OP's problem, and issue.

[Gummi Bear]

When a GFCI Plug trips... what happens to the rest of the plugs on that circuit? They go dead because they are behind the GFCI plug in the circuit.

Hence the OP's problem, and issue.

That would defeat the purpose of having a GFCI circuit....

The circuit is not GFCI, the plug is. It keep from killing power down the line. If it needs to be a GFI circuit than it would require a GFCI breaker.

I am not following you and this doesn't sound right. I am not an electrician so maybe one will chime in. If I have a GFCI circuit in my bathroom only one plug may be an actual GFCI outlet but I still want every plug in the circuit and in my bathroom protected by the one GFCI outlet. Why in the world would I rig the GFCI to not protect my other outlets? I would not do this in my bathroom, kitchen or outdoor plugs. I might consider converting a garage but that is the only place. This may be bad to do also.

Look at post #22 for the explanation.

[Rockjock]

GFCI's don't like motor startup loads.

The one and only receptacle in your garage allowed to not be a GFI is for the freezer. A GFI is designed for personnell protection, not equipment protection

I move a lot and have yet to live in a house wired as well as you mention, they are always wired with circuits off one GFCI. I also have yet to move into a house with a plug in the garage for a freezer. I always use the plug by the garage door opener they are never on the GFCI circuit.

[systemnt]

Look at post #22 for the explanation.

Just because its not how you would do it.. doesnt mean that not how they are done in general.. both commerically and residentially... GFCI's are commonly wired in circuit..as to create a dead circuit of outlets if tripped.

I don't disagree with you, however, in your opinion on how they should be installed.

[Gummi Bear]

OK -

I am suggesting changing out devices, it does not require adding any wire, or changing circuitry. Simply how the devices are terminated. As a homeowner, this is a relatively inexpensive way to upgrade your home's electrical safety and reliability.

Seldom is residential work done the best way. Cost controls everything in residential work. There is very little profit in it, and it is paid by piecework, not by the hour, so you get folks being pretty creative to save a buck, and still slide it past the inspector. It's a game to them to see just how much they can get away with and not receive a red tag.



You will not see it in commecial work. Specs won't allow it, I haven't seen it allowed in a spec in the last 15 years.

[BrianW]

To many unlicensed people wiring houses these days,Gummi Bear has it right,you just have to read and understand what is said.. very simple

[outlook8]

I wouldn't want to take my bathroom outlets off a GFCI. I would move the freezer to a different circuit first.

Put a regular receptacle for the freezer and move the GFI 'downstream' into the bathroom wit wherever you NEED one...

I'm an electricical contractor if that matters for anything...