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    Day Lease Manners

    I guess this is a bit of a rant but as much as anything it is an effort to learn why people do some of the things they do. Running a day lease operation has been, for the most part, an enjoyable experience for me. I've met many great people and found a new appreciation for bowhunters. As a class of people, bowhunters are just a pleasure to deal with.

    As you can imagine, we get folks with all different levels of experience. Some that are excellent judges of deer on the hoof and those that don't know a 10 year old deer from a yearling. We get all kinds.

    When hunters arrive we try to give them a short orientation on what to do or not do and what to shoot or not shoot. Most play by the rules when it comes to game that can be taken but we occassionally get one that is just going to break the rules regardless. We have a "minimum" standard for bucks and have in place a fine for bucks killed that do not meet this minimum.

    Anyone can make a mistake and I can live with that. I've only had to impose the fine once in the 8 years we've had the place. That guy really disappointed me as we had discussed the night before what kind of bucks to shoot or not shoot. I even showed him pictures of some "non-shooters" and he was adamant that he would never shoot such a deer. The next day he comes into camp with a yearling 6 point! When I asked him what was it about that deer that made him think it was a shooter he said, "Nothing. I traveled down here all the way from New York and I was not going home without a deer. I just did what I had to do!" I said, "Okay, fine. Now I gotta do what I gotta do - you owe me $500 and you need to pack up and leave!" Geez - what's with guys like that? And I have through the years found several "borderline" bucks that were shot and left because the hunter didn't want to face the fine.

    We have "pull ropes" in all the tree stands and ask that the hunters tie them down when they come out of the stand. Of course many never do, so the wind blows it up into the tree tops and tangles it up. The next hunter comes along and has to climb up and pull the rope out of the limbs and climb back down to tie his bow on before he can climb back up to hunt.

    Then, he'll find the last guy there also forgot to buckle the safety belt and it fell to the ground. So he has to climb back down and get the belt, assuming the critters haven't carried it off, before he can start his hunt! It just can't be that hard to buckle a belt or tie down a pull rope can it?

    And what about the guys that think they have to jack with your feeder timers? We tell them what time the feeders are going off but they just find it necessary to tweak it to their liking. We have hunters that come back in and say their feeder didn't go off, so we have to go check it out. More often than not, someone has jacked with the timer and it's throwing way before or after it should. Or it's out of corn because the last guy set it to throw for 30 seconds 6 times a day!

    We have several box blinds in place with shoot-thru mesh on the windows. Hardly a weekend goes by that I don't have to replace the mesh on at least one blind because the guy there last saw it necessary to cut it off rather than shoot through it!

    Okay, I guess I'm through whining now. Carry on.

    Trailboss

    #2
    It just blows me away that some people have NO respect for other people, nor their property. This is what happens when we have a society of people growing up without parents, or parents who are too busy to spend time "living life" with their kids.

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      #3
      That seems mild compared to what I would have thought you'd experience. We guide hunters and some of the stuff that you have to put up with is just unreal.

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        #4
        Kinda seems like common sense ain't so common anymore huh?

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          #5
          Originally posted by slacker View Post
          Kinda seems like common sense ain't so common anymore huh?
          That is exactly what I was thinking....Seems like some folks just don't repect others anymore either...

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            #6
            Archery Day Lease

            TB. I help run a small bowhunting only day lease. We helped to rememdy the " My feeder didn't go off " problem by putting locks on the timer door if possible (depending on the make/model) to keep hunters from changing/messing up the timers. Here is our other problem. We carefully brush in our stand sites (mostly tripods). Many times we find our brush partially removed and some times additional limbs cut which totally expose the hunters position. Then of course the hunter wonders why he could not get to full draw without getting busted. The other thing that bothers me is litter. I find cigarrette butts, candy wrappers and aluminum cans all to regularly. And lastly, I have found that some (not all by any means) of the hunters, are not very familiar with their equipment.

            Just venting too.

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              #7
              money changes everything. it's that mindset "I paid so I deserve." that's no excuse but you can see that mindset in your NY hunter...

              btw, I would pay good money to take a shot at a guy like that, especially if he was wearing yankee pinstripes... ;-)

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                #8
                Well I want to go on the record and say you have a first class operation. I have had the chance the last two seasons to come up with my son. I was able to harvest an 8 this last season. But more than the harvest of an animal the memories that I will cherish is the sitting around playing chess and the laughs with my 11 yr old son. So I thank you for running BAO and having a place that is so hunter friendly.

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                  #9
                  Oh yeah, I forgot about the tree trimming, trash dumping, and issues with the gates. Now I'm all mad again!

                  Trailboss

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                    #10
                    Lol.

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                      #11
                      is it supposed to be any different than the way people have no respect for hotels, parks, restaurants, etc... they're paying you to take care of the stuff and cleanup after themselves...

                      I was not raised that way but cannot fault those that had worthless parents who did not teach them to respect others and obey rules... it's America, and we also have the freedom to tell them to fark off.

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                        #12
                        This is a bit OT, but where do you get your shoot through netting Trailboss?

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                          #13
                          newbees have to be taught the basics!, and to not step on snakes!!!!!!!.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by BowVista View Post
                            This is a bit OT, but where do you get your shoot through netting Trailboss?
                            The last I bought came from David's Archery in W'ford.

                            Trailboss

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                              #15
                              sorry to hear TB, I would be mad as he// also!! but I'm afraid it's only gonna get worse with guys like this, because these idiots are breeding and making more idiots just as bad if not worse!!

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