Uncle Ted in Austin

[Grayson]

You have plenty of representation from your divisive elitist groups such as QDMA, TWA...ect.

LOL, there's nothing more elitist than the deer breeders and their "hunting" friends....not a member of those groups, BTW. Did they speak up in Austin yesterday?

[Sippy]

LOL, there's nothing more elitist than the deer breeders and their "hunting" friends....not a member of those groups, BTW. Did they speak up in Austin yesterday?

Yea they were down there telling everyone how to hunt and attempting to be ethics professors.

[huntnfishtex]

Yea they were down there telling everyone how to hunt and attempting to be ethics professors.

[deerplanter]

Before he was done, Nugent spoke of spirituality and made reference to an unspecified "scam" that would ban hunting.

"These are the kinds of arguments I didn't expect to hear in Texas," he said. By way of conclusion, he added, "I'm against this bill because it limits my choice.



Did I miss something, the way I read it they are wanting to extend an already mandatory 10 days to 60 days. I can understand why some people are against it, we sure don't want to hunt a wild deer.

[Kdog]

Sorry to those it offends, but I agree that extending the time from 10 days to 60 days is a good thing.

[GTXHUNTER88]

it's a persons business if they want to harvest a pen raised deer 20seconds from release ethics don't matter in this, we raise pigs and chickens and slaughter them in their pens. As long as the harvest is using ethical methods dictated under the law then what does time have to do with it. I won't kill any pen raised deer whether 10 days or 2 years released later just not what I'm interested in but people have the option to and if they want then they should. A pen raised deer is always a pen raised deer in my mind now breeding and releasing bred does is another story I'd shoot the bucks that were born in the wild. Just my opinion.

[GTXHUNTER88]

people shouldn't be offended by an opinion speak your mind brotha

Sorry to those it offends, but I agree that extending the time from 10 days to 60 days is a good thing.

[dbaio1]

My land, my fence, I don't need any politicians telling me what I can or can't do on my own land. They can KMA. Like that is important for them to be spending our tax payer dollars on. I don't all ways agree with Ted, but I'm glad he has the time and money to tell them "where they can go"

[aggie_archer]

I'm all for waiting 60 days (or even longer) before hunting a pen raised deer. With that said I also prefer not hunt pen raised deer at all, but as a hunter that is my right and my choice. I don't feel limiting what other want to do is the right way of going about this. If we give them an inch they will try and take a foot. If you don't want to hunt pen raised deer as a hunter i understand that and respect that but it is your choice to say you will not hunt the deer till the 61st day, but if another hunter wants to release his deer and hunt them on the 11th that is his choice. I just don't see the need to change it. No one is forcing anyone to hunt the released deer on the 11th day so why force them to wait another 50 days?....Rant over.

[jcso139]

I have to say that I think it is every person's decision. but personally Im on the fence.

[SwampRabbit]

I have a question, maybe somebody can answer? (not meant to be rhetorical, making a point.. I just want to know the answer.)

I was under the impression that Whitetailed Deer belong to the state. I derive this from the fact, you have to pay the state to harvest them whether you are on private or public property (a hunting license is required.) So, from this, no one person really "owns" the life of a deer right? You own the property they are kept on sure, but you don't own whether or not you are legally allowed to end thier life. There are rules, etc.

So unlike pigs, chickens, etc, you can't "own" deer.... ever; just the land they currently occupy. Deer are then in essence, property of the state of Texas.

Now, please understand, I am not taking sides, I am just trying to see if somebody can school me on whether or not what I beleive to be true, is actually true.

[aggie_archer]

SwampRabbit the short answer is yes, the state does own the deer. White-tail deer in the state of Texas are property of the state, that is why if a breeder buck escapes from a high fence ranch and walks in front of you during deer season when you are legally hunting it you may shoot it, even if it has an ear tag.

[AtTheWall]

I think it's sad it's even gotten down to this point IMO.


We have more important things to address in the wild outdoors than to spend time and tax payers money on the legislation of private ownership issues with farm animals. Once you start injecting, bottle feeding using "whatever" improvement methodologies to bring an animal into a genetically superior role (horns, flesh, fur, fin or feather), it then becomes an Agricultural management initiative. At that point, it’s just like any other agricultural product and associated “accepted market management” practices. It’s best that the AG market and its buyers, do business as they deem business needs to be done to be profitable, without having our tax payer dollars involved with how they run their business.

I make this statement because…….business is money and money is business. This should not have any bearing on the world of the wild harvest rules set in place for (horns, flesh, fur, fin or feather) for critters that are available to all under public land opportunities. Shellfish, finfish, free to roam harvestable game animals that are either commercial or non-commercial resources…..these are the topics our tax payer monies need to engage. The engagement should be centric with the preservation and management of these habitat worlds, paramount in efforts to maintain and improve the land\water and air of these resources for future generations.

In layman’s terms…we shouldn’t be involving our public legal system with a very small sector of livestock management….a sector where horns are the only deliverable for the few who choose to “get their horns” using hyper controlled man made management practices.

[bowhuntntxn]

I have a question, maybe somebody can answer? (not meant to be rhetorical, making a point.. I just want to know the answer.)

I was under the impression that Whitetailed Deer belong to the state. I derive this from the fact, you have to pay the state to harvest them whether you are on private or public property (a hunting license is required.) So, from this, no one person really "owns" the life of a deer right? You own the property they are kept on sure, but you don't own whether or not you are legally allowed to end thier life. There are rules, etc.

So unlike pigs, chickens, etc, you can't "own" deer.... ever; just the land they currently occupy. Deer are then in essence, property of the state of Texas.

Now, please understand, I am not taking sides, I am just trying to see if somebody can school me on whether or not what I beleive to be true, is actually true.

The state does NOT own the deer. If that were the case, the state could be held responsible for damages to property, such as a car, when someone hits one of them. They actually belong to the citizens of the state.

[huntnfishtex]

[QUOTE=dbaio1@yahoo.com;6850521]My land, my fence, I don't need any politicians telling me what I can or can't do on my own land. They can KMA. Like that is important for them to be spending our tax payer dollars on.

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