A Game Of Thrones

[Hookem84]

SmallJon Umber was/is the head of House Umber, which is the farthest house to the North. I don't remember if it was him or his dad at the Red Wedding on the show. That might be SmallJon we saw last night.

Edmure Tully is a captive at the Twins. (House Frey)

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[Birddog66]

That's the good thing about the show...we watch to learn. I dang sure don't want to know until it happens and have it spoiled here by somebody who knows. It's all a part of the suspense right?

You really don't have anything to worry about anymore, it's all spoiled out. We could tell you a little about what may/may not happen with the Greyjoys, same with the city of Maureen but nothing of real substance.

Arya getting her eyes back and the dragons getting unchained were the last major/sub-major spoilers. IMO.

[Roy]

Why waste time with Sam and Gilly?? The ayra story with her going to faceless men is total bs. I felt she would was the most independent and firey one of all the Starks. Now she has a "broken" mentality. That storyline needs to pick up pace for me.

House Bolton now aligned with Karstarks and Umbers should be a fairly large army. If not the biggest of all the armies now.

Arya will still be a Stark and, soon, a bad to the bone assassin to boot! She intentionally hid Needle (her sword) and I have a feeling she will find her sword at some point and be reminded of who she is. Those on her list have no idea what's coming...

On to a few other points...

I have to say I really enjoyed the new Lord Umber's (Smalljon) repulsion towards Ramsay. Unfortunately, it came with a 'gift'. What I am unsure about is whether or not that boy is indeed Rickon, or an impostor? On one end the Umbers were banner men for House Stark, and were protecting Rickon this whole time, so I can't see why Smalljon fears Jon Snow and the Wildlings. If this is true, then what would the Umber's true intention for 'joining' Ramsay be? Perhaps revenge for the Red Wedding?

On the other side, I'm sure Greatjon's death (if he is indeed dead) is the only way Smalljon would be able to gift Rickon and Osha to Ramsay- which leads me to believe it IS Rickon. Why Ohsha was 'gifted' as well is beyond me though- maybe to make the ploy believable? Either way, this 'Rickon' is a goner for sure- probably to be flayed alive. Or in the very least he will become the new 'Reek' or will be used to bait Sansa into turning herself in. Such is life for the Starks...

And don't even get me started on the High Sparrow!! That dude is a silver-tongued devil! He Jedi mind-tricked poor young Tommen so hard it was almost unbearable to watch. He went from yelling "I AM THE KING!" (which Tywin told him previously 'any man who must say I am the king, is no true king') to taking a freaking seat next to the guy and practically accepting that his mom needs to be judged. Some heads are definitely going to 'roll' soon in Kings Landing! Trial by combat will be coming- Gregor championing Cersei and.... (my prediction) The Hound championing the Sparrows! Cleggane bowl 2016!!!

[Roy]

SmallJon Umber was/is the head of House Umber, which is the farthest house to the North. I don't remember if it was him or his dad at the Red Wedding on the show. That might be SmallJon we saw last night.

Edmure Tully is a captive at the Twins. (House Frey)

It was his dad, Greatjon. But according to Smalljon- his father died 'naturally' when he spoke with Ramsay. Greatjon was not killed at the Red Wedding (he wasn't even there)

[Nado]

Ok so what did every one think about Bran Stark seeing his fathers flashback? I wonder why they showed how his father fought that night at the castle of joy, was it to show him that just because he was told a story doesnt mean it was exactly true? Are they forshadowing to show that John Snow isnt his step brother after all? Also Ned Starks sisters is presumed to be in the castel but with who??? A Targaryen? Also when Bran called for his father as he was going to enter the castle the young Ned turned as if he heard something? Does this mean Bran can talk or change the past in some way??? These are just questions, I havent read the books but just so ideas to bounce around.

[crawdaddct]

SmallJon Umber was/is the head of House Umber, which is the farthest house to the North. I don't remember if it was him or his dad at the Red Wedding on the show. That might be SmallJon we saw last night.

Edmure Tully is a captive at the Twins. (House Frey)

His dad GreatJon Umber fought with Rob and was the guy who declared him king of the north. I had to check, Greatjon was not at the red wedding, but his brother and banner men where. It gets confusing because in the books, he was there and taken hostage. Either way, on the show Rickon was sent to him for protection. Smalljon indicated last night Greatjon was dead. Smalljon may be as he says, turning his back on traditions or there could be something else at play. Since he killed the wolf, who knows.

[Birddog66]

I have to say I really enjoyed the new Lord Umber's (Smalljon) repulsion towards Ramsay. Unfortunately, it came with a 'gift'. What I am unsure about is whether or not that boy is indeed Rickon, or an impostor? On one end the Umbers were banner men for House Stark, and were protecting Rickon this whole time, so I can't see why Smalljon fears Jon Snow and the Wildlings. If this is true, then what would the Umber's true intention for 'joining' Ramsay be? Perhaps revenge for the Red Wedding?

His dad GreatJon Umber fought with Rob and was the guy who declared him king of the north. I had to check, Greatjon was not at the red wedding, but his brother and banner men where. It gets confusing because in the books, he was there and taken hostage. Either way, on the show Rickon was sent to him for protection. Smalljon indicated last night Greatjon was dead. Smalljon may be as he says, turning his back on traditions or there could be something else at play. Since he killed the wolf, who knows.

I didn't like seeing the Umber's join Ramsey in anyway, but it's obvious there is no love loss between the two. I think Ramsey will mess up before too long. It was surprising for me, they backed the Starks, thats why Bran sent Rickon there in the first place.

Ok so what did every one think about Bran Stark seeing his fathers flashback? I wonder why they showed how his father fought that night at the castle of joy, was it to show him that just because he was told a story doesnt mean it was exactly true? Are they forshadowing to show that John Snow isnt his step brother after all? Also Ned Starks sisters is presumed to be in the castel but with who??? A Targaryen? Also when Bran called for his father as he was going to enter the castle the young Ned turned as if he heard something? Does this mean Bran can talk or change the past in some way??? These are just questions, I havent read the books but just so ideas to bounce around.

Was not the fight scene I envisioned as all. More to come....

[crawdaddct]

Ok so what did every one think about Bran Stark seeing his fathers flashback? I wonder why they showed how his father fought that night at the castle of joy, was it to show him that just because he was told a story doesnt mean it was exactly true? Are they forshadowing to show that John Snow isnt his step brother after all? Also Ned Starks sisters is presumed to be in the castel but with who??? A Targaryen? Also when Bran called for his father as he was going to enter the castle the young Ned turned as if he heard something? Does this mean Bran can talk or change the past in some way??? These are just questions, I havent read the books but just so ideas to bounce around.

There was so much in the scene. I liked they showed that, but they pulled up short. They are playing with the fans a little with that whole scene. I'm sure we will get answers.

Part of the book, its not a spoiler, because it all already happen. Before Theon and a different character (Sansa on the Tv show) escape Winterfell, he hears Bran calling his name from a tree. He thinks it is the gods trying to tell him something. That his name is really Theon. That ultimately leads to him escaping. So its the same kind of thing. Can he change the past?? We will see, but I hope it doesn't go too far into that. Enough is happening, without changing what has already occurred.

[crawdaddct]

I didn't like seeing the Umber's join Ramsey in anyway, but it's obvious there is no love loss between the two. I think Ramsey will mess up before too long. It was surprising for me, they backed the Starks, thats why Bran sent Rickon there in the first place.

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I didn't like it either, the whole scene just had me boiling. That's why im hoping for some alternate motives.

[crawdaddct]

Some heads are definitely going to 'roll' soon in Kings Landing! Trial by combat will be coming- Gregor championing Cersei and.... (my prediction) The Hound championing the Sparrows! Cleggane bowl 2016!!!

Yea, Im ready for the High Sparrow to get his. That would be great, two zombie brothers going at it. LOL

[Encinal]

Yea, Im ready for the High Sparrow to get his. That would be great, two zombie brothers going at it. LOL

Ohhhh!!!! hadn't thought about that!

[Landrover]

Good thoughts from every possible angle. Some of yall are REALLY GOT nerds.......lol!!!
I really really really like the show but if anyone has good spoiler stuff just shoot me a PM. It don't bother me at all, still gonna look at it 2 or 3 times before the next show comes out. At least we know some heads are gonna roll this season but seems like they could spread it out in all the shows a little more instead of multiple lead ups.
Now, the folks on ShowTime are smoking with this years Penny Dreadful!!!

[Birddog66]

What I am unsure about is whether or not that boy is indeed Rickon, or an impostor? On one end the Umbers were banner men for House Stark, and were protecting Rickon this whole time, so I can't see why Smalljon fears Jon Snow and the Wildlings. If this is true, then what would the Umber's true intention for 'joining' Ramsay be? Perhaps revenge for the Red Wedding?

A man likes the sound of this theory, but a man also has doubt.....

[Landrover]

A man likes the sound of this theory, but a man also has doubt.....

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!! U got that down pat sir!!!

[Birddog66]

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!! U got that down pat sir!!!

A man tries......