An observation.

[boblee]

There seems to be more concerns and fears about
possible additional gun restrictions / aka / gun control
than concerns and fears for the safety of our children
and grandchildren.

And ****ed little concern for the indescribable carnage and
horror that has occurred Newtown, Connecticut.

No. Guns are not to blame. I can't even begin to guess
where blame and fault lies. Such acts are beyond my powers
of comprehension.

But this much is true: If it would restore the life of only one
dead child there, I would load up all my guns in the truck, take
them with me to work tomorrow and run 'em over with the D9 dozer.

I'm both a father and a grandfather and I cannot and don't even
want to try to imagine the hurt and misery the childrens' families
are trying to cope with. My heart is breaking for them right now.
I ain't thinking about much else.



Perhaps my thoughts about it all are misplaced. But I don't think so.
Bob Lee

[akey]

There seems to be more concerns and fears about
possible additional gun restrictions / aka / gun control
than concerns and fears for the safety of our children
and grandchildren.

And ****ed little concern for the indescribable carnage and
horror that has occurred Newtown, Connecticut.

No. Guns are not to blame. I can't even begin to guess
where blame and fault lies. Such acts are beyond my powers
of comprehension.

But this much is true: If it would restore the life of only one
dead child there, I would load up all my guns in the truck, take
them with me to work tomorrow and run 'em over with the D9 dozer.

I'm both a father and a grandfather and I cannot and don't even
want to try to imagine the hurt and misery the childrens' families
are trying to cope with. My heart is breaking for them right now.
I ain't thinking about much else.



Perhaps my thoughts about it all are misplaced. But I don't think so.
Bob Lee

Bob, I haven't always agreed with your posts but this time your thoughts ring true. So much concern over gun control and hardly a passing thought for the families that have Christmas presents with no kids to open them up in CT.

[lameduck]

You are spot on and thank you sir.

[BQ93]

If it would restore the life of only one
dead child there, I would load up all my guns in the truck, take
them with me to work tomorrow and run 'em over with the D9 dozer.

It wouldn't. I suspect all of us have been impacted by these events, probably more than we might like to admit. I also suspect most of us realize that more gun laws are not going to help a thing.

Ask yourself how many gun laws this disturbed individual broke last Friday - and now ask how having more laws for him to break would change a thing.

The only thing a gun free school zone creates is an attractive target for those wishing to create maximum impact.

(and I say these things with 2 of my 3 boys within arms reach. My heart absolutely breaks for those families.)

[systemnt]

I dont think there isnt a single person on this site that doesnt feel extreme grief and sadness for those kids, their families, and the situation as a whole, nor do i think... and i truly believe this, do i think there isnt anything people on this site wouldnt do if it could reverse what happened.
Circumstances being what they are..nothing we do will bring those that were killed back.
The discussions being had now concerning the after effects , the media, and knee jerk reactions are normal and are needed.

[Sippy]

I dont think there is a single person on this site that doesnt feel extreme grief and sadness for those kids, their families, and the situation as a whole, nor do i think... and i truly believe this, do i think there isnt anything people on this site wouldnt do if it could reverse what happened.
Circumstances being what they are..nothing we do will bring those that were killed back.
The discussions being had now concerning the after effects , the media, and knee jerk reactions are normal and are needed.

Spot on.

[miket]

I'll have to be contrary here. Just because the concern may not have been voiced on this forum does not mean it does not exist. I am hurt deeply by the tragedy inflicted on the kids and teachers. Truly saddened for the families and our country. Sadly, destroying all of your guns will not bring them back, and neither will banning guns.

[miket]

I dont think there isnt a single person on this site that doesnt feel extreme grief and sadness for those kids, their families, and the situation as a whole, nor do i think... and i truly believe this, do i think there isnt anything people on this site wouldnt do if it could reverse what happened.
Circumstances being what they are..nothing we do will bring those that were killed back.
The discussions being had now concerning the after effects , the media, and knee jerk reactions are normal and are needed.

Well stated.

[neskora]

There seems to be more concerns and fears about
possible additional gun restrictions / aka / gun control
than concerns and fears for the safety of our children
and grandchildren.

And ****ed little concern for the indescribable carnage and
horror that has occurred Newtown, Connecticut.

No. Guns are not to blame. I can't even begin to guess
where blame and fault lies. Such acts are beyond my powers
of comprehension.

But this much is true: If it would restore the life of only one
dead child there, I would load up all my guns in the truck, take
them with me to work tomorrow and run 'em over with the D9 dozer.

I'm both a father and a grandfather and I cannot and don't even
want to try to imagine the hurt and misery the childrens' families
are trying to cope with. My heart is breaking for them right now.
I ain't thinking about much else.



Perhaps my thoughts about it all are misplaced. But I don't think so.
Bob Lee

I agree wholeheartedly

[stickerpatch59]

There seems to be more concerns and fears about
possible additional gun restrictions / aka / gun control
than concerns and fears for the safety of our children
and grandchildren.

And ****ed little concern for the indescribable carnage and
horror that has occurred Newtown, Connecticut.

No. Guns are not to blame. I can't even begin to guess
where blame and fault lies. Such acts are beyond my powers
of comprehension.

But this much is true: If it would restore the life of only one
dead child there, I would load up all my guns in the truck, take
them with me to work tomorrow and run 'em over with the D9 dozer.

I'm both a father and a grandfather and I cannot and don't even
want to try to imagine the hurt and misery the childrens' families
are trying to cope with. My heart is breaking for them right now.
I ain't thinking about much else.



Perhaps my thoughts about it all are misplaced. But I don't think so.
Bob Lee

sorry for your grief, but everyone that i know is also sorry for what has happened. but taking all of your guns and runing over them with a d-9 dozer isn't going to bring not one person back, saying you would do this only gives the gun grabbers more hope and courage. they are banking on the emotion of people like you, it is all emotion driven at this stage, on both sides; no one wants to see this kind of violence on anyone, not just children...on anyone. please don't let yourself get caught up in the mess that is playing out on the screen of your t.v. sit back and take a deep breath and think about what you are saying, and think about how it could determine the future of this nation. god bless you and the u.s.a.

[flatlander]

I'd be willing to bet that there have been a lot of prayers, conversations with young children who shouldn't have to worry about this sort of thing and tears shed over the news coming out of CT, just because you haven't seen it here doesn't mean it isn't there. You are probably somebody, like many of us who would have gladly stood between the maniac and those kids,and it's a lot harder to do that if you ran over all your guns with a dozer.

I shouldn't have to talk to my kids about where to hide in an event like this, or that things like this exist.

The next tragedy will be a bunch of people who are willing to give up their rights for the sake of security. That has never worked in the history of the world.

God bless those kids, victims and their families, I can't imagine what they are feeling or how they will cope---the only way this is going to change is for it to be okay for people with morals and values to expect everybody else in the world to at least ACT like they have them also.

[Todd-ty729]

It is a nice thought but the fact is it running over your weapons with a D9 would not change anything in the weird mind of a deranged person.

[Hart8]

I worry constantly about my son,just like a lot of folks do.I worry about all kids,and want nothing,but the best for each,and everyone of them.
Had this murderer been looked after,and worried about from a young age this would not have happened...
By the way,I too would trade my guns to have those little ones back.

[GarGuy]

I agree with your intent here and I think I truely understand what you and I are feeling inside. That said, trashing guns isnt the answer. You didnt kill any kids with your guns. Its no different than thinking you should run your truck off into the lake because thousands of kids were killed in wrecks.

It isnt the tool thats to blame its the decision someone made.

[stickerpatch59]

it is just emotions running rampant, if the same thing had happened in another country, the reaction would not be the same. and i understand it, we all feel grief over it and are p.o. over it, but all of these calls for runing over guns with dozers, and the like will not fix one thing and will not bring one soul back