AR 15 Question???

[Mike D]

BILLET Not forged and tighter tolerences.

Also Its nickel teflon coating/NP3, not boron.

Of all the parts that make an AR a quality gun, the receiver is way down on the list.

[ducks-and-bucks]

Mike d

I said what I said because I haven't seen factory rifles come with aftermarket triggers, or custom parts or barrels from satern or les baer, or any other high end custom maker. All that kinda stuff is replacement upgrades that I've seen. Its jmo. Please send me a link with a factory custom built gun. No offense intended. I've never seen it.

[ducks-and-bucks]

I just don't see quality in mass produced parts. I like the hand made.

[KEG08]

ive heard that alot of the interchangeable parts on dpms and stag or rockriver wont work with colt dont know for a fact but i like putting aftermarket parts on mine might want to check that out.

That's the case when you get 'big pin' Colt parts. The pins used to be too big for the Mil-spec parts. Colt used larger than standard size hammer, trigger, and takedown pins for a long time. They use the normal mil spec stuff now. There are adapters available for the older big pin Colt uppers/lowers. some Colt lowers have a large block installed in them-cant use certain Bolt Carriers. Gotta watch out for Colt's older hammers, triggers, and takedown pins. hint: old Colts have a .315 front takedown pin. Mil spec is 1/4"

[Tommyh]

Mike d

I said what I said because I haven't seen factory rifles come with aftermarket triggers, or custom parts or barrels from satern or les baer, or any other high end custom maker. All that kinda stuff is replacement upgrades that I've seen. Its jmo. Please send me a link with a factory custom built gun. No offense intended. I've never seen it.

Thats because the intended purpose of the weapon is designed for military specifications, to fire military specified ammunition. All of the after market add ons are toys designed to make you happy, not ignite primers dependably in all situations, fired down barrels designed for phosphorous temps, handled by people who could care less about how the person who shot it before they were asigned the weapon to now beat the hell out of it.

colt IS the standard because they designed the standard. the internal parts are better, the tolerances are correct, and the components that make the round go boom and impact where it is supposed to are inspected, treated, and tested individually. The screws are torqued and taked properly all over the weapon, consistently from one rifle to the next, and not locktited(rock river) or left to come loose after 500 rounds because some qc dept couldnt be bothered to check on their assembly lines(dmps and every other low end budget rifle).


Pleaae take the time to learn about the platform before you spend the cash before buyers remorse sets in. Milspec is only as good as the crap youre putting it into.

[Mike D]

Mike d

I said what I said because I haven't seen factory rifles come with aftermarket triggers, or custom parts or barrels from satern or les baer, or any other high end custom maker. All that kinda stuff is replacement upgrades that I've seen. Its jmo. Please send me a link with a factory custom built gun. No offense intended. I've never seen it.

No offense taken.

There are different parts. There are parts that are in battle rifles like Colt, BCM, Daniel Defense, etc and then there are parts that look pretty and shoot well. Two different ends of the spectrum. You can get a battle rifle with parts made to go through hell and back and then you can add on the stuff that really doesn't matter. The guys that their lives depend on their rifles could care less about the pretty parts and match triggers.

Lower end guns like DPMS and such are just not built to the same standards as the ones listed above. Why would you buy a lower end rifle and sink a ton of money in it and still just have a low end rifle with pretty parts on it? Just doesn't make sense.

I would venture to say a good rifle that won't cost you much more than a low end rifle and will shoot better than most people are capable of shooting anyway.

Ask anyone that truly knows what is a good battle rifle and they sure wont tell you it's a DPMS among many others.

Custom ARs like a Les Baer or whatever are a whole different discussion and not what this thread was about anyway.

[Mike D]

Thats because the intended purpose of the weapon is designed for military specifications, to fire military specified ammunition. All of the after market add ons are toys designed to make you happy, not ignite primers dependably in all situations, fired down barrels designed for phosphorous temps, handled by people who could care less about how the person who shot it before they were asigned the weapon to now beat the hell out of it.

colt IS the standard because they designed the standard. the internal parts are better, the tolerances are correct, and the components that make the round go boom and impact where it is supposed to are inspected, treated, and tested individually. The screws are torqued and taked properly all over the weapon, consistently from one rifle to the next, and not locktited(rock river) or left to come loose after 500 rounds because some qc dept couldnt be bothered to check on their assembly lines(dmps and every other low end budget rifle).


Pleaae take the time to learn about the platform before you spend the cash before buyers remorse sets in. Milspec is only as good as the crap youre putting it into.

^^^^^ yeah, what he said.

[vanmedic]

I have 2 dpms rifle's love them both, I have had COLT,RRA,DTI as well, but myself just love my dpms,they will eat most any ammo you put through it i added a jard trigger because i like a lighter trigger.You can ask 10 people there opinons on black guns and may get 10 diff answers.I think you would be happy with the dpms.One thing you will figure out you can sink alot of cash into any AR making it right for you, high end,mid range or low end.Good luck

[ETXBow]

Thanks vanmedic!

I used to hunt with Brian Plunk from Van. Good guy.