Federal premium w/ 55 grain Barnes trippleshocks break through BOTH shoulders and leave a thumb sized exit at moderate distances.
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The first ten years that I hunted deer, ALL were killed with the 222 that my dad bought as my first centerfire rifle. Depending how I felt determined where I shot ... some in the head, some in the neck, but most in the shoulder. Never lost one, knock on wood.
As many have said, stay away from the ballistic tipped varmit rounds, pay attention to the shot placement and you'll be fine.
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Behind the shoulder is fine. It will kill a deer. The deer will probably run a ways before dying, and there probably won't be a lot of blood. But it will kill the deer dead.
I assume you're wanting to have her shoot behind the shoulder because it's bigger and easier to hit than the neck or the head. There's a great compromise between the two, literally, that is a better option in my opinion. The front shoulder is the best of both worlds. It's just as big as the ribs behind the shoulder. It doesn't wiggle like a head or neck. And if you hit a deer there, they drop dead in their tracks just like a neck or head shot, so no need to try to track small drops of blood. Also, if you miss a little one way or the other, you're not going to hit guts like you might by aiming behind the shoulder. You either hit neck or lungs if you're off.
I had my son shoot his first deer behind the shoulder, just to be safe - with a .223. The deer went 60 yards and piled up. No problem, but there wasn't much brush to hide the dead deer in.
After that I had him shoot everything in the front shoulder where it joins the neck. He's killed 25-30 deer since then with that shot (with .223, .22-250 and .25-06), and every one of them hit there dropped in their tracks. Here's his 2nd deer ever - the 1st one with that shot placement. She's literally laying where she stood when he shot her. You hit spine and major arteries there. They're immobilized instantly and die just about instantly as well, as the blood flow to the brain is gone.
Bloodtrailing is for bowhunting. Guns are for dropping stuff.
Last edited by Shane; 11-26-2012, 10:13 PM.
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I shot a doe with my 223 Friday afternoon with a 55 grain Nosler ballistic tip. She ran about 40 yards. The exit wound was about the size of a fist. I also shot two hogs with the same round and there was no exit and no blood trail for either. Will the 223 work, yes. Are there downsides, yes. Possible longer tracking for a big bodied animal and or no blood trail.
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Originally posted by JDH875 View PostI shot a doe with my 223 Friday afternoon with a 55 grain Nosler ballistic tip. She ran about 40 yards. The exit wound was about the size of a fist. I also shot two hogs with the same round and there was no exit and no blood trail for either. Will the 223 work, yes. Are there downsides, yes. Possible longer tracking for a big bodied animal and or no blood trail.
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