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    #16
    I can at work now. But next month when they move us to the main plant, no more. Air Force propery.

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      #17
      This brings to mind a thread about a month ago where I was questioned on why I don't have chl.

      16 responses to the OP and every answer is different. Seems a little confusing.

      Watching and waiting to see a correct answer.

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        #18
        Here is the main thing to remember in Texas. Texas is a right to work state meaning your employer can look at you and say your services are no longer needed. Then all you can do is get unemployment. You can not sue for wrongful termination in Texas or for breaking Texas laws if the just say those magic words. You are no longer needed they do not have to give a reason. So just don't make an employer mad.

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          #19
          First off how would they know you have a gun in your vehicle? Unless you make it public!!! Second they would have to have a search warrant to look in any ways. You be amazed what walks right by you day in and day out!!!!

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            #20
            Texas Law Shield is a great organization to be a part of if your going to carry a gun, CHL holder or Not

            If nothing else their news letters are informative...

            Taken from news letter (and these are attorneys that deal with gun laws daily)... Still confusing even though gun rights lawyers have tried to make it simple for us common folk.... Texas Law on employer parking lots is confusing...

            "Texas Employer Parking Lot law is unclear in that it contains contradictory language which allows it to be logically interpreted as applying only to CHL holders, instead of to all lawful gun owners. Many employers have adopted this interpretation. In addition, the law was written to except out many employers, such as schools, chemical manufacturing facilities and oil and gas refineries, and companies whose primary business is the manufacture, use, storage or transportation of hazardous, combustible or explosive materials. The law also excludes employees who drive motor vehicles owned or leased by the employer. Many employers have written rules to exploit these exceptions and have attempted to apply them to parking lots and circumstances for which it was not intended. Further, as we stated in our previous newsletters, the Texas law does not provide for any enforcement provisions or penalties to the employer who violates an employees' rights under this law. This was a glaring omission from the law. Particularly, since Chapter 52 of the Labor Code contains several other miscellaneous restrictions on employer action (including one that says an agricultural employer must give an employee a hoe that has at least a four foot handle), all of which contain some form of civil or criminal penalty for employer violations. However, there is nothing to protect the lawful gun-carrying employee from the unreasonable regulations and restrictions of an overzealous employer. In many ways the law is only symbolic."


            Be very careful in parking lots, the highlighted section states very clearly that you can be fired for this...

            Hope this helps put some clarity to it but unfortunately Texas law is not very clear on the subject except that there will not be any penalties to an employer for violating our rights and firing someone should this happen.
            Last edited by TexaswBOWhunter; 11-21-2012, 03:07 PM.

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              #21
              Originally posted by WCB View Post
              "Under the law, an employer may not prohibit an employee who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun from storing it in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area provided for employees. The law makes similar provisions for storing ammunition.

              The law does not apply to any of the following:

              properties where firearms are banned by state or federal law
              vehicles owned or leased by employers for employee use, except for cases in which employees carry or transport firearms as part of their duties
              schools
              property that is owned or controlled by someone other than the employer and is subject to oil, gas, or other mineral leases that prohibit the possession of firearms
              parking lots located within restricted areas on property containing hazardous, combustible, or explosive materials, subject to further restrictions."

              Government contracts don't count either.
              Originally posted by junkmanhunter View Post
              This brings to mind a thread about a month ago where I was questioned on why I don't have chl.

              16 responses to the OP and every answer is different. Seems a little confusing.

              Watching and waiting to see a correct answer.
              see above quote

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                #22
                If a "crackhead" tries to rob you in the parking lot and you don't have your gun you could be dead and this = NO JOB or...
                You shoot the "crackhead" because you have your gun and now you might still get to keep your job or have the option of looking for a new job.
                Sounds like the gun in the car has more upside to it!!

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                  #23
                  And you can carry to work if they don't have a 30.06 posted or have given you notice either verbal or written that you cannot carry. A written policy of no firearms will keep a CHL holder from carry into the building.
                  And many employers have employees sign away their right to needing a search warrant to search a vehicle on their property. The law keeps them from getting you arrested but as a right to work state they can fire you for anything. I'm union so I would get my job back with back pay.
                  If I still had any guns. You know, the old "fell into the lake" gig...

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                    #24
                    my person protection is my responsibility.. I keep the Tools necessary in and around my property (i.e my vehicle) to defend myself by any means necessary.. and seek no ones permission of how to do so..

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by TexaswBOWhunter View Post
                      Texas Law Shield is a great organization to be a part of if your going to carry a gun, CHL holder or Not

                      If nothing else their news letters are informative...

                      Taken from news letter (and these are attorneys that deal with gun laws daily)... Still confusing even though gun rights lawyers have tried to make it simple for us common folk.... Texas Law on employer parking lots is confusing...

                      "Texas Employer Parking Lot law is unclear in that it contains contradictory language which allows it to be logically interpreted as applying only to CHL holders, instead of to all lawful gun owners. Many employers have adopted this interpretation. In addition, the law was written to except out many employers, such as schools, chemical manufacturing facilities and oil and gas refineries, and companies whose primary business is the manufacture, use, storage or transportation of hazardous, combustible or explosive materials. The law also excludes employees who drive motor vehicles owned or leased by the employer. Many employers have written rules to exploit these exceptions and have attempted to apply them to parking lots and circumstances for which it was not intended. Further, as we stated in our previous newsletters, the Texas law does not provide for any enforcement provisions or penalties to the employer who violates an employees' rights under this law. This was a glaring omission from the law. Particularly, since Chapter 52 of the Labor Code contains several other miscellaneous restrictions on employer action (including one that says an agricultural employer must give an employee a hoe that has at least a four foot handle), all of which contain some form of civil or criminal penalty for employer violations. However, there is nothing to protect the lawful gun-carrying employee from the unreasonable regulations and restrictions of an overzealous employer. In many ways the law is only symbolic."


                      Be very careful in parking lots, the highlighted section states very clearly that you can be fired for this...

                      Hope this helps put some clarity to it but unfortunately Texas law is not very clear on the subject except that there will not be any penalties to an employer for violating our rights and firing someone should this happen.
                      As stated in the highlighted section there is no provisions against employers, that's because Texas is a right to work state an employer can fire you for anything and not give you a reason.

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