Why is it better to shoot does early rather than after they have been bred?

[flatlander]

According to a study I read once, a buck will only breed so many times, regardless of the number of opportunities. So if there is an overpopulation of does to begin with then shooting does that may be bread at the end of the year is a dice roll on taking one that is breed vs one that isn't.

I talked to a guy the other day that helps with mgmt of a large HF ranch, and when this question came up in the conversation he agreed.

[trophy8]

You risk killing a for that has been bred by a great buck. Shoot them early and you have a much better chance of that not happening.... Pretty simple. Would you watch a 200" buck breed a doe then kill her? Doubtful. Same concept.

[Cleanshot]

I've always thought it was best to get em early because it forces patience later in the yr or in rut and eliminates the dumb decision to take a doe during rut when the monster that you don't see is right behind you.

[brshcntryhntr]

Probably means nothing as far as the unborn fawn is concerned. I'm not a biologist either but if that buck didn't waste his semen on that doe would he possibly breed another doe? May or may not be a good thing, some places have too many mouths to feed as it is. For me its a personal not wanting to clean a doe with unborn fetus.

[jooger17]

[QUOTE=trophy8;6121115]You risk killing a for that has been bred by a great buck. Shoot them early and you have a much better chance of that not happening.... Pretty simple. Would you watch a 200" buck breed a doe then kill her? Doubtful. Same concept.[/QUOTE]

Valid point.

[Osceola]

If you kill does in oct, nov, or dec. they are not going to produce fawns. Doesn't matter when you shoot em.

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[KactusKiller]

[quote=jooger17;6121174]

You risk killing a for that has been bred by a great buck. Shoot them early and you have a much better chance of that not happening.... Pretty simple. Would you watch a 200" buck breed a doe then kill her? Doubtful. Same concept.[/QUOTE]

Valid point.

It would be a valid point unless you had shot that particular doe back in October. Then she need would have had the chance to get bred by that 200" deer. Nobody in their right mind would shoot that doe after watching her get bred. It's just a mind game, if I let that particular doe walk in October, will she be bred by a trophy or cull and will that buck produce a buck or doe fawn?
It's a total crap shoot as to what the outcome will be IF you don't shoot that doe BEFORE she is bred.
Kind of like Back to the Future. If his parents never got the opportunity to get together he would cease to exist. Marty Mcfly is the potential buck fawn.

[JW]

I usually tag out on em late.

1. I dont like shootin stuff of off my stand till after i kill my buck.

2. Early, Its too **** hot!!!

3. Thats my not so scientific analysis.

[Bowdark]

I shoot them as early as possible because they are delicious.

This.

[Bowdark]

2. Early, Its too **** hot!!!

This too...

[Draco]

I soot my does late normally. I want as many decoys coming around as I can. A dead doe isn't going to bring a big buck in for you.

[76RanchAg]

I shoot does early for a couple of reasons. No real science or data to suggest I'm right. However, I'd like to think that the "monster" or "trophy" bucks would be the more dominant bucks (not always the case) but I'd like to think so. Hopefully the more dominant buck would breed more does.....buck / doe ratio of course is a key factor. I take does early to improve the "ratio" I guess.

Secondly, and maybe the the primary reason for shooting them early is......call me soft....but I hate cleaning does and find they are carrying twins.

Like i said...no real science, just my philosophy.

[Swampa]

My thoughts are to kill them early, but I usually don't. Early on, I'm always thinking something big is gonna show up.

[jooger17]

[quote=KactusKiller;6121285]

It would be a valid point unless you had shot that particular doe back in October. Then she need would have had the chance to get bred by that 200" deer. Nobody in their right mind would shoot that doe after watching her get bred. It's just a mind game, if I let that particular doe walk in October, will she be bred by a trophy or cull and will that buck produce a buck or doe fawn?
It's a total crap shoot as to what the outcome will be IF you don't shoot that doe BEFORE she is bred.
Kind of like Back to the Future. If his parents never got the opportunity to get together he would cease to exist. Marty Mcfly is the potential buck fawn.

If you had shot her in October then she wouldn't be getting bread in front of you




I'm not saying one way is bad and one way is good, I am just giving my $.02 on how I do it.

[Mexdeer19]

I shoot does that are at blinds with a lot of cull bucks, and then I shoot the culls. And vice versa.

My new motto, "If you hang with a cull, you should be culled as well."