help with a jumping dog!

[Dale Moser]

Knee him in the chest, or step on his back toes.

[DrenalinJunkie]

I am no dog trainer but the knee in the chest worked on my lab. Also I didn't use the word "down" I was told by a trainer friend to use"off" in a loud and forceful manner. He siad it had more to do with it sounding like a more dominante dog bark than an actual word. Don't know if it is true but he is 5 now and hasn't jumped up since he was about 9 months old.

[Bones]

Knee him in the chest while stepping on his back toes and frying his arse with the collar. Then kick him in the cods for good measure!

That would teach me..............

[stopper]

Jumping Pup

The pup is probably just really excited to see you, and that's a good thing. The knee in the chest works well, stepping on the paw works, and about anything used with consistance will work in time. The ecollar should only be used to reinforce what the dog has been taught. I use ecollars alot on both bird dogs and cattle dogs to reinforce what I have already taught them.

Good luck with the pup

[cosmiccowboy]

I broke my heeler of jumping on me at about 6 months by anticipating the jump and meeting her nose with the palm of my hand as she started to jump, and then making her sit before I would pet/reward her. I really think a shock collar on a young dog for basic obedience stuff is overkill. The key is consistency. Whatever behavior you are striving for make them do it EVERY time. It helps that my heeler is a food pig. She will do ANYTHING for a few kernels of dry dog food as a reward. By six months she would sit, stay (even if I walked 100'+ away) lay, fetch, "drop" what she fetched (walk up to my open hand palm up and drop the toy into it) and heel. I also started her early with a "gentle" command when I rewarded her so she wouldn't snap at the treat. Jumpers also tend to be lungers on the leash. Every time they start lunging on the leash, just stop. When they finally relax and release the pressure start walking again. It might take ten minutes to go a hundred feet the first time but they figure out pretty quick that if they want to get from point A to point B that the fastest way is not to lunge at the leash.

Heelers are extremely pack/rank sensitive. I am the Alpha in "her" pack. Every member of the family has to be consistent and assertive so they can be Alphas in the dogs mind too. Heelers will walk all over a family member (my daughter in our house) that they consider to be "lower" in the pack hierarchy.

As for jumping on strangers, you should really keep a leash handy and always work her on a leash around strangers till she learns her manners. A dog should learn to "ask" for permission to approach a stranger. Keep the dog out of approach/jumping distance till he/she is relaxed and looks back at you. Then drop the leash and let the dog approach. Make sure you warn the stranger to use the flat palm to the nose method if she tries to jump and then make her sit and reward her immediately for good greeting behavior.

[Tommyh]

Knee him in the chest while stepping on his back toes and frying his arse with the collar. Then kick him in the cods for good measure!

That would teach me..............

One of the four would get MY attn lol! hopefully it wouldnt get to the last one

[312InchMagnum]

this is good info guys...thanks a lot

nate riley...he hasn't actually been out hunting with me yet...he was too young this season...but, he does really well retrieving dummys with scent...i did introduce him to a dead dove...no problem retrieving it...just wanted to hold in his mouth a while...he doesnt know what to think of coons yet...killed one and was skinning it...he was barking and growling at it the whole time...and he loves squirrels...my buddy had killed one at his ranch and was showing it to him...he grabbed it and ate the whole thing...haha...i will work with him a lot heavier this summer on retrieving...i have 7 weeks off

...have never thought about stepping on the back legs...will definately try that...i think the e collar would be a good investment a little later on if i end up bringing him hunting a lot...

i did learn my lesson of leaving him by himself for a whole day outside...i was real busy the other day and put him outside for the day...BIG MISTAKE...he obviously got bored...and chewed up cable to 4 houses (they all hook up to a box in my backyard)...but, it was hard to get mad at him...it was my fault for not giving him any attention the whole day...

what do you guys think of getting a companion/buddy for him?...we have an inside daschund, but she is grumpy and is just a lap dog...she doesnt like to play with him...

also...how do you guys feel about spay/neutering...i've been debating this...

[cosmiccowboy]

I wouldn't even consider starting hunting/bird retrieving training with him till he has all the basic obedience commands ( sit, stay, lay, etc.) down cold.

If you are dove hunting you won't need a retriever if you are constantly chasing your dog around trying to get him to behave because you will be flaring doves out of range instead of shooting them.

I am a firm believer in getting good behavior from a dog by consistently rewarding good behavior rather than physically punishing bad behavior.

[Mossback]

nothing a #8 setting on the OL' shock collar can't solve

[Rchr]

Ditto!

You need to have everyone put their knee in his chest without saying anything he'll start to learn that when he jumps it hurts.

Ditto,
I did the same thing w/ my lab and she figured it out after a while.

[cosmiccowboy]

nothing a #8 setting on the OL' shock collar can't solve

Uhhh...dogs get to know really quick when that collar is on/off. If you want your dog to wear a dummy receiver on his collar the rest of his life just to make him behave out of fear of being shocked thats fine, but there are a lot better ways to teach them.

[kornsqueezer]

Shock Coller!!! He will get the message.

[hntndawg]

We always steped on their back toes or gave them a slight kick to the "cobblers" if they still had em...dogs figure ou the best way to protect these two spots is by not jumping up to expose them.

Another thing that I try to do with my new pup...when I get back and he is jumping cause he is excited, I will kneel down to his level and hug/wrestle him a bit...getis it out of his system.

[Bill]

When my wifes grandmother's boston terrier jumped on me I gave it the knee and watched it fly across the room.

I'll bet it never did it again?

On a bigger dog, the knee is not so much into the dog, but upwards, if done properly the hound flys over backwards and lands on it's back. I found it stopped the behavior.

Also, work on sit-stay to get the dog to stay in one position. It's a control-thing, and allows you to establish the alpha relationship without whoopin' the dog.

[bowfishin fool]

I think it is just a puppy thing, but I would still dicipline him for it. Repetition and consistency will win out. Be firm but not mean! That's my opinion.

Dave

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