Hog hunt question

[Tubby]

Wrong!!!

Easy there killer...

Care to elaborate?

[Fishndude]

Wrong!!!

Actually, you're wrong!

[sqiggy]

Easy there killer...

Care to elaborate?

Actually, you're wrong!

Page 25!!
Also, nowhere in the book you have to leave them lay!!!

[Tubby]

As per TPWD:


Exceptions: a hunting license us not required to hunt the following:

• Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl.
• Depredating feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner’s agent or lessee is taking feral hogs causing depredation on the landowner’s land.
• Fur-bearing animals, if the hunter possesses a trapper’s license or if the fur-bearing animals are causing depredation.
Note: All laws and regulations governing hunter education still apply.

[sqiggy]

Page 25!!
Also, nowhere in the book you have to leave them lay!!!

I also went thru Hunters Ed with my son last fall. This question was brought up. The answer given by him, as well as the GW's I have talked to, say the same thing. If hogs are tearin your place up, anybody can hunt them, kill them, and take all the meat they want, license or no license.
But, to me, it's still a gray area for a lot of people. I wish TPWD would make it clearer. But I'm not really concerned with it, cause I'm a lifetime holder!!!

[BBReezen]

I also went thru Hunters Ed with my son last fall. This question was brought up. The answer given by him, as well as the GW's I have talked to, say the same thing. If hogs are tearin your place up, anybody can hunt them, kill them, and take all the meat they want, license or no license.
But, to me, it's still a gray area for a lot of people. I wish TPWD would make it clearer. But I'm not really concerned with it, cause I'm a lifetime holder!!!

Well that's gonna fall under what I stated before, the GW's discretion is different then what the law actually is. Depends on the warden, you might get some gung ho rookie thatll try to get you for everything in the book and not care about the hog problem or you might get a good Ol boy GW and he wont care as long as your helping the cause. I've had one tell me that it's illegal to shoot hogs or coyotes off the side of the road but what he don't know...

[Fishndude]

Maybe it's only fur bearing nuisance animals that must be left lay?

I've heard it's ferral hogs too and that's straight from 3 gw's mouths. Seems grey like you said.

[Fishndude]

I also know a gw who doesn't know the difference between a javi and a ferral hog, so who knows!!!?? Lol!!!

[sqiggy]

Well that's gonna fall under what I stated before, the GW's discretion is different then what the law actually is. Depends on the warden, you might get some gung ho rookie thatll try to get you for everything in the book and not care about the hog problem or you might get a good Ol boy GW and he wont care as long as your helping the cause. I've had one tell me that it's illegal to shoot hogs or coyotes off the side of the road but what he don't know...

Actually, this was put in place for landowners or "landowner's agent" to be able to kill hogs (or coyotes) , that normally do not hunt, thus not having a license. Example, I know a guy that calls his grandson when hogs move in on his place. Grandson lives out of state and grandpaw no longer hunts anymore, but both of them can go out there and kill'em without having to buy a license.
Also, everybody should know that it is illegal to shoot off a public road, no matter what it is.

Maybe it's only fur bearing nuisance animals that must be left lay?
Beavers are what this is referring to. You can trap or kill beavers without a license, BUT, if you keep the pelts, you must have both a hunting and trappers license. We got beavers on our place, and I swear, I think they do more damage than our hogs do.

I've heard it's ferral hogs too and that's straight from 3 gw's mouths. Seems grey like you said.

Next time you talk to one, just ask him to show you in the regulation book where you got to leave them lay. He won't be able to do it because it isn't there. I also believe you can ask 10 GW's and get 10 different answers!!

I also know a gw who doesn't know the difference between a javi and a ferral hog, so who knows!!!?? Lol!!!

Now that's sad!!!
But then again, a lot of people think a javie is part of the pig family too!!!

[Fishndude]

It's there... Page 73

"a landowner on their own land or their authorized agent is not required to have a trappers license or hunting license if the nuisance animals are taken while causing loss or damage to agricultural crops, livestock, poultry, or personal property. However, such animals or their pelts MAY NOT BE POSESSED or sold."

Pick it up and put it in your vehicle/backpack/etc.. and you now "posess" that animal!

Not many beavers kill livestock or poultry!

[miket]

Straight form TPWD web site.

TEXAS
Every hunter (including out-of-state hunters) born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, must successfully complete a Hunter Education Training Course. Minimum age of certification is 9 years and cost is $15.

If you were born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, and you are:
• under 9 years of age, you must be accompanied*.
•age 9 through 16, you must successfully complete a hunter education course, or you must be accompanied*.
•age 17 and over, you must successfully complete a hunter education course; or purchase a Hunter Education Deferral, and you must be accompanied*.

New: Hunter Education Deferral (cost: $10) Allows a person 17 years of age or older who has not completed a hunter education program to defer completion for up to one year. A deferral may only be obtained once and is only valid until the end of the current license year. A person who has been convicted or has received deferred adjudication for violation of the mandatory hunter education requirement is prohibited from applying for a deferral. Take the course by August 31 of the current license year and receive a $5 discount.

*Accompanied means: By a person who is at least 17, who is licensed to hunt in Texas, who has passed hunter education or is exempt (born before Sept. 2, 1971), and you must be within normal voice control. Proof of certification or deferral is required to be on your person while hunting.
Note: Certification is not required to purchase a hunting license.

Bowhunter Education: Certification is required on certain areas of Texas (Hagerman National Wildlife Refuge, Pottsboro and Camp Bullis, San Antonio).

Note: Bowhunter education does not substitute for Hunter Education certification.

Tel: 800-792-1112 ext. 62 for automated course line; all other calls: ext. 9-4999 or 512-389-4999.

The HE# on your license is proof. As is the card.

[miket]

Btw, there is a number in the TPWD book that you can call for clarification of the rules. I have called it before to win a bet.

[Chasin Bacon]

I've never seen a location that had hogs where there weren't signs of depredation. They root the ground and cause erosion issues, the defecate near and in stock tanks, tear bark off of trees. Hogs=Damange Game Wardens know this.

I'm not arguing whether a Game Warden can cite somoen for sitting in a hunting stand over a feeder waiting on a hog to come in, we all know they probably could cite an unlicensed hunter or give out a hunter ed violation, according to the way the statute is written they obviosly could, but my question is Has anyone ever recieved a violation for hunting wild hog? Or does anyone know someone that has?

[icetrauma]

Btw, there is a number in the TPWD book that you can call for clarification of the rules. I have called it before to win a bet.

[sqiggy]

It's there... Page 73

"a landowner on their own land or their authorized agent is not required to have a trappers license or hunting license if the nuisance animals are taken while causing loss or damage to agricultural crops, livestock, poultry, or personal property. However, such animals or their pelts MAY NOT BE POSESSED or sold."

Pick it up and put it in your vehicle/backpack/etc.. and you now "posess" that animal!

Not many beavers kill livestock or poultry!

This is the "gray area" I talk about as well. What happens when lawyers write up rules and regulations.
TPWD should just let some backwoods rednecks write this stuff up. It would be more "understandable"!!!! Make it plain and simple:
Ya can kill a hog, but can't keep it or
Ya can kill all ya want, keep all ya want