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    zimmerman video

    zimmerman walks through what happened the night of the shooting.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfkRTC5gF4&feature=related"]Zimmerman Reenactment.mpeg - YouTube[/ame]

    #2
    I am watching this case...it's interesting to see how it turns out.

    It's not as cut-and-dried as the media initially led everyone to believe. Personally, I think that unless Zimmerman can get some witnesses to corroborate that he was attacked by Martin, he's looking at some time behind bars.

    Cases like this are a sobering example of why a concealed carry license isn't a license to be a tough guy. De-escalation of hostile situations is always preferable to what Zimmerman is currently going through.

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      #3
      Originally posted by MojoTexas View Post
      I am watching this case...it's interesting to see how it turns out.

      It's not as cut-and-dried as the media initially led everyone to believe. Personally, I think that unless Zimmerman can get some witnesses to corroborate that he was attacked by Martin, he's looking at some time behind bars.

      Cases like this are a sobering example of why a concealed carry license isn't a license to be a tough guy. De-escalation of hostile situations is always preferable to what Zimmerman is currently going through.
      Not dealing with this case in particular but self defense in general......

      I think the burden is on the state to prove that Zimmerman did not have a valid reason for self defense and not Zimmerman's burden to come up with witnesses to justify his defense.

      If Florida law is similar to Texas laws on self defense and Zimmerman has to bring up nothing to prove self defense. Once it is allowed by the judge to be entered into the trial as a question for a jury, the state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defense did not exist.

      For this case to be in Texas it would likely not even get to trial and if so, it would probably be a quick not guilty verdict. Assuming Florida law is similar then the results should be the same.

      ..in my opinion.

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        #4
        Originally posted by tvc184 View Post
        Not dealing with this case in particular but self defense in general......

        I think the burden is on the state to prove that Zimmerman did not have a valid reason for self defense and not Zimmerman's burden to come up with witnesses to justify his defense.

        If Florida law is similar to Texas laws on self defense and Zimmerman has to bring up nothing to prove self defense. Once it is allowed by the judge to be entered into the trial as a question for a jury, the state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defense did not exist.

        For this case to be in Texas it would likely not even get to trial and if so, it would probably be a quick not guilty verdict. Assuming Florida law is similar then the results should be the same.

        ..in my opinion.
        Yup, I guess we'll all have to wait and see how it plays out.

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          #5
          Just saw the outcome of this "stand your ground" defense.
          Here in Texas.
          Man got 40 years for murder

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            #6
            Interesting video.... time will tell, but if there is any corroboration of this... seems pretty cut and dry.

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              #7
              Originally posted by M-2 View Post
              Just saw the outcome of this "stand your ground" defense.
              Here in Texas.
              Man got 40 years for murder
              http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47986039#.T-uGufX5Ak8
              Quite a different situation. In link above the guy was looking for a confrontation, I don't know if that was Zimmerman's intent or not. Really think the Zimmerman case could go either way.

              As said above, the state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was not attacked, did not feel threatened for his life, and provoked the attack. IF he's telling the truth, I personally don't feel that following someone at a discreet distance is provoking, and its not definitely the same as pounding on the persons door screaming.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Loneaggie View Post
                Quite a different situation. In link above the guy was looking for a confrontation, I don't know if that was Zimmerman's intent or not. Really think the Zimmerman case could go either way.

                As said above, the state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was not attacked, did not feel threatened for his life, and provoked the attack. IF he's telling the truth, I personally don't feel that following someone at a discreet distance is provoking, and its not definitely the same as pounding on the persons door screaming.
                No kidding. In the hands of a jury, I don't count anything for certain in any trial.

                I was testifying in an aggravated robbery one time a few years ago and during a recess his defense attorney said to a couple of us officers behind closed doors that he basically had no defense and the defendant probably should have taken the plea deal but he still put on his defense the best he could. The prosecution had a few eyewitnesses of both the robbery and the defendant being in the store a short time earlier saying that he was coming back to get the clerk since he was caught trying to steal some beer. The attorney's only defense was the defendant's mother saying that she wasn't there but didn't think he could do it because he was supposed to be in Louisiana that day (45 minutes away). She wasn't sure if he was in Louisiana because she was at home in Texas and the defense did not produce the relatives where the defendant was supposedly at to testify for his alibi.

                The jury found him not guilty.

                In the hands of a jury............

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Loneaggie View Post
                  Quite a different situation. In link above the guy was looking for a confrontation, I don't know if that was Zimmerman's intent or not. Really think the Zimmerman case could go either way.

                  As said above, the state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was not attacked, did not feel threatened for his life, and provoked the attack. IF he's telling the truth, I personally don't feel that following someone at a discreet distance is provoking, and its not definitely the same as pounding on the persons door screaming.
                  Oh, I completely agree the Texas case was a different situation. There were plenty of witnesses in the Texas case, for one. This Zimmerman thing is just too ambiguous all around.

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                    #10
                    i wonder when this video was made?

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