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Originally posted by Lady Archer View PostAbsolutely NO good science backing up the lead ban. None. It's the same deal as DDT.
This legislation has no chance in the Senate...especially not in an election year. But good on the GOP for at least doing SOMETHING.
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As far as i know, lead is a naturally occurring element in the wild. that means heavy metalsnare present in EVERYTHING we eat, drink, touch, taste, smell, whatever, so saying a single bird eating a pellet destroys the environment for everyone who ever comes in contact with that incident is ludicrous. The actual amount, unless digested by the shooter when he fails to remove it from the game, isnt enough to do damage.
(queue the links that show lead toxicity)
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Originally posted by Fishndude View PostHi Mikey!!
So there are less now than when lead shot was being used??
The 2011 breeding population estimate for the 10 most common duck species in the traditional survey area was 45.6 million birds—an 11 percent increase from the previous year's estimate and the largest total estimate since surveys began in 1955. Mallards had a breeding population of 9.2 million birds—up 9 percent from last year and the largest estimate since 2000. In more good news for waterfowl hunters, blue-winged teal, redheads, and shovelers reached record highs this spring. In addition, pintails had a breeding population of 4.4 million birds, a 26 percent increase from the previous year and the first time this population has surpassed 4 million birds since 1980. Populations of all other duck species in the traditional survey area were statistically similar to last year. Only two species—scaup and American wigeon—were below their long-term averages.
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I can't tell you how many ducks I have seen hit by steel shot and either get up and fly off or keep flying and perhaps swim off and not be recovered because of the low energy delivery of steel. I have seen a Blue bill get knocked down swim 50 yds fly off land 400 yds out in the bay and slowly die... With lead they DIE!
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What Jaspro posted Jeff . I was make-n a oxymoron in the second line above for ya, just to confuse you. I see it workedLast edited by Texas Grown; 04-18-2012, 09:25 PM.
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Originally posted by back-woods-boy View PostI can't tell you how many ducks I have seen hit by steel shot and either get up and fly off or keep flying and perhaps swim off and not be recovered because of the low energy delivery of steel. I have seen a Blue bill get knocked down swim 50 yds fly off land 400 yds out in the bay and slowly die... With lead they DIE!
Give me some #4 lead and I'm a happy duck killing machine!!!
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Well quail used to be more plentiful and they were/are hunted with lead and there is less today than ever before. I just don't see it. I think ducks have less breading ground and more predation than before but there are many theories about the decline. It is somewhat cyclical due to rains and floods, food sources etc. much like anything else in nature.
By the way how do you really count ducks with any real accuracy. Not sure you can.
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