Correct, but look at where most ducks concentrate. Water. And where do duck hunters hunt? Water. There is a large concentration of shot in one area where the majority of duck are feeding. Whereas other birds and bird hunters do not concentrate in one single area, spreading out the shot and minimizing the effects.
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Ill put it this way as well. Bird a is a duck. Bird b is a dove.
Bird A goes from: Body of water in canada
To:Body of water in midwest
To:Body of water in South
To:Body of water in mexico.
Bird A is going from small area to small area. Hunters are concentrating on most of these areas thus producing a large amount of (lead) shot in the feeding areas.
Bird B however goes from field to field to pond. A large amount of these fields are not hunted, and the hunters are spread over more area instead of being highly concentrated on isolated spots where the majority of the birds feed (like bird a).
Am i making sense?
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Originally posted by Sippy View PostCorrect, but look at where most ducks concentrate. Water. And where do duck hunters hunt? Water. There is a large concentration of shot in one area where the majority of duck are feeding. Whereas other birds and bird hunters do not concentrate in one single area, spreading out the shot and minimizing the effects.
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Originally posted by Ouch View PostMost birds eat gravel to some extent, if I'm not mistaken.
crazy thing is I can hunt over a tank for ww / doves with no problem, but if a duck goes down, I break the law.
The cali-condor was also one of the main reasons they banned lead in centerfire rigs out there...the birds would eat a wounded critter and the lead would block up their system. I'm guessing barnes owns the market on the left coast.
I'm for the measure in the grand scheme, but understand 'why' lead is not liked.
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Originally posted by Sippy View PostI am completely educated on how the system works. I am referring to if the bill gets completely passed.
"It does absolutely nothing."
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Originally posted by tvc184 View PostWell, when you asked the four words "what does this do", I will retract most of my other post and simply stick with my first four words......
"It does absolutely nothing."
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Originally posted by Sippy View PostCompletely different. Duck pick up small rocks when they feed (including lead shot), which causes them to get lead poisoning and die.Originally posted by Ouch View PostMost birds eat gravel to some extent, if I'm not mistaken.
They use the rocks, etc in their gizzard to help crush up the seed/feed they eat...
And FTR, a Coot has a gizzard as big as your fist.
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Originally posted by BvR View Postwhy? I guess you shoot dove and quail with nontoxic shot?Originally posted by Ouch View PostMost birds eat gravel to some extent, if I'm not mistaken.Originally posted by BvR View Postnot different dove pick up small rocks(including lead) also.Originally posted by BvR View Postalot of dove hunting is done over water. which the ducks still can pick up the lead. dove hunting over crops, ducks and geese use the same fields to feed. I don't care if lead shot is brought back for waterfowl or not.Originally posted by iamntxhunter View PostI see duck and geese eating in fields when not 2-3 months earlier we were hunting doves in it. This is all bogus crapola and nothing but polotics rather than sound science.Originally posted by Tubby View PostUmm.. yeah... they do...
They use the rocks, etc in their gizzard to help crush up the seed/feed they eat...
And FTR, a Coot has a gizzard as big as your fist.
These guys are making sense... Logical factual Sense.
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