Pipeline Question for the Green Screen

[Ouch]

you don't want a valve setting or a set of pig launchers out on your land. I wouldn't.

Actually, that sounds like more fun than fishing.

[HuntinFrk]

Wife is saying that it would be a 17" line that they would be putting in if it happens. She was also saying something about the more investors they get the more money we would get. I guess I will find out when I get home what is going on.

"more investors" To me that is a lame negotiating tactic, stand your ground. You may want to speak to an O&G attorney in the area to see what the "local" going rate is and go from there. And also put in your contract that you want winter food plots planted in the pipeline sendero every year.

[Palmetto]

talk to your neighboors too. See how their negotiations are going.

We just settled on our place, and they tried to give us a contract with no pipe size! How crazy is that?

[charlie mcmahan]

10-4

Also, keep in mind that if they do go thru your property to read the contract and make sure they don't try to sneak in any above ground installations without your consent. I'm sure you don't want a valve setting or a set of pig launchers out on your land. I wouldn't.

I made that clear to her that I didn't want anything above the ground. Probably have a talk with them Monday or Tuesday and see whats going on.

Thx for the help everybody

[Tubby]

I made that clear to her that I didn't want anything above the ground. Probably have a talk with them Monday or Tuesday and see whats going on.

Thx for the help everybody

Keep in mind that they have to have pipeline markers. Either fiberglass or metal sign posts.

[macoop]

You can negotiate pretty much anything you want. Annual fee/ one time payment/ every ten years etc. I have seen all kinds of terms on a ROW agreement.

Some things to ask is.......are they going to re-seed? If it is in a cultuvated field...are they going to double ditch it?
Any above ground appertunances?
Access to your property for leak surveying and line patrol?
The time of year they access your property. Obviously if they have a problem they need access but you don't want to be sitting in your deer blind on opening morning and some guy comes putting through your hunting area on a 4 wheeler with a flame pack.
Will they need to contact you before they access your property? Will they install gates with locks(that you have a key to) at the fencelines where their pipelines cross?
Will they remove all rocks from the ROW when they finish installing the line? (assuming you have some good soil)
On a personal note....will this prevent you from ever using your property for what you want to use it for? You WILL have people on your property checking the line and doing what pipeline companies do on a regular basis. Be sure you have a contact name of a technician that is local for your area that is familiar with you and the line. You are better off if you have a face and a home phone number. Some pipeline companies are good to work with and some are jake holes. You are better off if you can get a face and home phone number of the guy that will be accessing your property. Oh yes, and be sure to put in the ROW agreement that there will be no firearms brought onto your property and no wildlife resources taken or disturbed. Most companies will not let their employees carry firearms anyway but if it is in the agreement then it will never be an issue.
You can negotiate for one or multiple lines and do be size specific before you agree to anything. Most agreements that I have seen are specific for the product that the line will be carrying. ie, natural gas, oil, gasoline or hydrocarbon products.
Good Luck!

[brushtrooper]

We are getting $32.00 per foot near Charlotte, Tx. (60 miles south of San Antonio). One thing you might add in your contract with them is that there is to be no risers on your property, nothing above ground. Make them put those on your neighbors.

Ditto for us in Campbellton and it took several months of negotiating with our lawyer to get that price.
Everything macoop said to

[Skinny]

Just replying to what was written there cat-daddy... I thought he might have meant by the rod but just wanted to clarify the pipe lengths.

And yes, I'm well familiar with the "rod" measurement. (y'all keep your minds outta the gutter too!!)

And FTR, I can now have GRITS, APPLESAUCE, COTTAGE CHEESE AND MASHED TATERS!! oh happy days!!

Woooo Whooooo!!!!! I love me some cottage cheese and applesauce!!!!!

Skinny

[DorothyNotKeegan]

Just replying to what was written there cat-daddy... I thought he might have meant by the rod but just wanted to clarify the pipe lengths.

And yes, I'm well familiar with the "rod" measurement. (y'all keep your minds outta the gutter too!!)

And FTR, I can now have GRITS, APPLESAUCE, COTTAGE CHEESE AND MASHED TATERS!! oh happy days!!

Grits-yes
Ape sauce-no
Cottage cheese-HELL NO
Masher taters-oh yeah!!!

Sounds good Tubby!!!

[HappyM]

The only thing i have to add to the above is tHe first thing to find out is if it is a regulated pipe or one that is a flow line. If it is a flow line you have more leverage and they have to deal harder as they would not have the right of condemnation. (no Tubby , you don't wear those ). They will try to scare you f they have condemnation rights. don't take their first offer.

[Tubby]

The only thing i have to add to the above is tHe first thing to find out is if it is a regulated pipe or one that is a flow line. If it is a flow line you have more leverage and they have to deal harder as they would not have the right of condemnation. (no Tubby , you don't wear those ). They will try to scare you f they have condemnation rights. don't take their first offer.

LOL!! I know about condemnation and lease rights.

As far as "if" they do have condemnation rights, don't try to keep negotiating to get a better price each time. They'll drag it out in court, costing you more money in lawyer fees then lay the line based on "fair value" of your land, NOT a negotiated price... You'll end up with pennies on the dollar in the long run.

[HappyM]

;-)