Outboard Motor w/out Title?

[BrandonH]

What's involved in getting a title for an outboard motor that doesn't currently have one? There's a motor online that I'm interested in however the ad says no title. It is a 20+ year old motor and the price is okay, so it doesn't strike me as being stolen and sold for a quick buck. I haven't called the seller yet to get all the details, but wanted to have an idea what I may getting into first.

Thanks,
Brandon

[floyd80]

I believe the older motors dont have titles.

[Crazzy]

I have a 87 and it has a title, if it's a good enough deal just buy it, how often do you get stopped and asked to see the title for the motor.

[Brazos Hunter]

It looks like you would need to fill out a TPWD outboard motor application Form PWD144 and a couple others listed on the chart below.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fishboat/boat/owner/titles_and_registration/Not%20on%20TPWD%20Record.pdf

[Old Bald Guy]

I have a 87 and it has a title, if it's a good enough deal just buy it, how often do you get stopped and asked to see the title for the motor.

You may not get stopped for years and you might get stopped several times in one day. All it takes is to get stopped one time with a hot motor to put a kink in your lifestyle.

[Old Bald Guy]

What's involved in getting a title for an outboard motor that doesn't currently have one? There's a motor online that I'm interested in however the ad says no title. It is a 20+ year old motor and the price is okay, so it doesn't strike me as being stolen and sold for a quick buck. I haven't called the seller yet to get all the details, but wanted to have an idea what I may getting into first.

Thanks,
Brandon

No title= no sale.

[Brazos Hunter]

No title= no sale.

I wouldn't go that far. I have one from the late 60's that never had one. They didn't title motors then. I know it's not hot, my Pop got it new from Sears.

[BrandonH]

I did more research during the night and the majority of things I read suggested to not buy without title, but if you still want to to through with it to run the serial number. By doing this I could see who the precious owner is as well as if it was stolen. My next question is...who can run the numbers?

[Old Bald Guy]

I wouldn't go that far. I have one from the late 60's that never had one. They didn't title motors then. I know it's not hot, my Pop got it new from Sears.

World of difference between getting one from your Pops without a title and buying a no title motor online. Just sayin-

[Brazos Hunter]

True, it just all depends on the year model. If it were a pre titled year and I could have the numbers ran, I wouldn't hesitate.

[DXTroughneck]

if the seller can prove its not stolen then id jump on it. I have never been asked for my motor title in any situation. When a game warden stops you he asks for boat registration. They dont require you to carry titles with you.

[Old Bald Guy]

From TPWD's site:

Effective January 1, 1994, all motorboats and all outboard motors must be titled. Also sailboats 14 feet and over in length must be titled.
•All motorized boats, regardless of length;
•All sailboats 14 feet in length or longer or any sailboat with an auxiliary engine(s); and
•All internal combustion (gasoline/diesel powered) outboard motors must be titled.

Purchaser – you can avoid unwanted surprises about your purchase by having the seller accompany you to the local office. If there are any problems with the title, they can be resolved by the seller at that time. Do not purchase a used boat or outboard motor without receiving a signed title from the person(s) listed on the title or from their legally documented representative. If a legal representative signs the title for the recorded owner(s), you must obtain a copy of the documentation authorizing them to act on behalf of the owner(s). Purchases or gifts of boats or outboard motors that do not acquire the title and bill of sale will not be eligible for immediate transfer. These may be titled through a more expensive and lengthy bonded title process.

[Brazos Hunter]

These may be titled through a more expensive and lengthy bonded title process.

I posted a link to the Docs he would need to file here:

It looks like you would need to fill out a TPWD outboard motor application Form PWD144 and a couple others listed on the chart below.


http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fishboat...D%20Record.pdf

[BrandonH]

Any idea on who I could call to run the numbers and make sure it's not stolen?

[Old Bald Guy]

if the seller can prove its not stolen then id jump on it. I have never been asked for my motor title in any situation. When a game warden stops you he asks for boat registration. They dont require you to carry titles with you.

That's becuase on the little card you get from TPWD it says outboard about midway down on the right side. This tells the warden that the motor is titled and registered with the boat. I carry a photocopy of the outboard title in the boat because I have been asked for motor registration paperwork several times through the years.