Pipeline Project Timelines

[Gclyde28]

For anyone that has had a pipeline run across property that they own (or works in the field), do you know approximately how far in advance the easement settlements were made prior to the pipeline being in service? I realize there a ton of work that has to occur between those two events including installing said pipeline but just trying to reverse engineer a possible timeline.

[Greenheadless]

Guessing +5years minimum. More than likely much longer. I would say, very dependent on project scope size.

[Gclyde28]

I'm not saying your wrong because you may have information to back that up (and businesses often publish unrealistic timelines) but we've been approached about a pipeline just in the past couple weeks that per the information online has a target in service date of Q1 2027.

[dbaio1]

We have 4 interstate transmission lines and 3 gathering. The last interstate (2011) we were first contacted about a year to year and half before they reached our property with construction. We finalized our ROW about 2-3 months before. We received a intent to push but eminent domain ended up getting all of our request because they were valid with exception of one and that was a wetlands issue beyond their control.

[dbaio1]

For anyone that has had a pipeline run across property that they own (or works in the field), do you know approximately how far in advance the easement settlements were made prior to the pipeline being in service? I realize there a ton of work that has to occur between those two events including installing said pipeline but just trying to reverse engineer a possible timeline.

Ask them they should be able ro give you a range and estimate.

A couple of things I will pass on.
Limit the ROW to one pipe. Dont leave it open to come thru years later with another pipe and pay diddly.
Have language about above ground apparatuses that you agree we and understand, cover future as well.
Damanges across life expectancy for future generations.
I'd have an attorney review and advise everything if you have enough acerage involved.
For price I will share we received roughly 3 1/2 times more than their initial offer on a pipeline that ran a tad over 1 mile.
Good luck

[Palmetto]

I'd say it varies. I just helped a buddy negotiate a 20" crossing his place earlier this year. I think they settled in March, and they just finished backfilling & cleaning up on his property last month.

[Gclyde28]

Ask them they should be able ro give you a range and estimate.

A couple of things I will pass on.
Limit the ROW to one pipe. Dont leave it open to come thru years later with another pipe and pay diddly.
Have language about above ground apparatuses that you agree we and understand, cover future as well.
Damanges across life expectancy for future generations.
I'd have an attorney review and advise everything if you have enough acerage involved.
For price I will share we received roughly 3 1/2 times more than their initial offer on a pipeline that ran a tad over 1 mile.
Good luck

Thanks for your input, much appreciated. We've dealt with the negotiation and contract side of having a pipeline run across our property before, we just weren't involved until later on in the process but we will have an attorney be reviewing the terms again this time as well. We included most all the same provisions that you mentioned in the last deal.

I was curious about the timeline because we just received the form requesting access to the property to complete the survey a couple weeks ago. I don't have any idea how long it takes to get from that to the easement negotiation side of things. I asked when I sent the form over but didn't get a response. We were considering selling the property before we received this notice but will hold onto it if the easement settlement is in the foreseeable future, but we'd prob go ahead and sell it if everyone's past experience was that it's a 3-5 year process. There's already a pipeline running across the property so if this one runs parallel to the original one like we are expecting, it shouldn't affect property value much.

[MAP]

Is this in south texas? We just got another letter last week for another pipeline. The time line is alot shorter than 3 years, im sure on your property there will be gas flowing by this time next year.

If your going to sell the place, you could make more money from the pipeline by offering a place for a compressor etc. That stuff normally doesnt act the resale price of the property down here.

[brokeno]

The pipeline easements we received they digging and laying pipe in six months. The last I heard $38.00 per foot for one line. I would have them spray brush after the completion instead of mowing the r o w especially if you have mesquite and weesatche.

[M16]

Transmission lines usually start about six months after the agreements are inked. The going rate down south was 3$ per inch of circumference a foot. A 24 inch line was $72 a foot. Flow lines happen a lot faster. I have two that are taking roughly two months from notification to completion.

[BRUTE 23]

Don't just make the lease for the construction. All the maintenance and issues for the rest of you life need to be in it.

For example, spray with herbicide annually.

Notice of entrance for maintenance or inspection.

specs on how gates, h braces, etc will be done through the property. Their crews do shotty work. Ive seen them bring in pre-made Hs that are barely a foot and a half deep.

Things like all stumps must be revode from the ROW and not just cut off.

Clearly state their easement will not supercede or pevent x,y,z operations on the property.

Minimum depth the line must be kept at their expense.

Any line locating will be at their expense and will not interfere with your operations. None of that, we can't find the line so you can't dig bs 10 yrs down the road.

Most importantly, penalties for breaking the rules. Contracts with out penalties are useless. Sueing for damages is a joke and they know it.

If you can imagine it going wrong, it will at some point.

[RMW]

Have a 48 inch pipeline going across two properties as we speak, they notified us around 8 months in advance. They are digging the line through my turf farms and had to get a lawyer to handle the negotiations on a settlement, the reason why is I’m loosing a harvest plus future harvest and it having to be replanted, also it goes across the property at an angle and can’t use irrigation laterals to water so it’s affecting around 250 acres of turf.

[Palmetto]

Transmission lines usually start about six months after the agreements are inked. The going rate down south was 3$ per inch of circumference a foot. A 24 inch line was $72 a foot. Flow lines happen a lot faster. I have two that are taking roughly two months from notification to completion.

How long ago was that? I was told 3 was the rule of thumb several years ago, and was able to get that. Saw $4.90 per inch foot recently.

[dbaio1]

Don't just make the lease for the construction. All the maintenance and issues for the rest of you life need to be in it.

For example, spray with herbicide annually.

Notice of entrance for maintenance or inspection.

specs on how gates, h braces, etc will be done through the property. Their crews do shotty work. Ive seen them bring in pre-made Hs that are barely a foot and a half deep.

Things like all stumps must be revode from the ROW and not just cut off.

Clearly state their easement will not supercede or pevent x,y,z operations on the property.

Minimum depth the line must be kept at their expense.

Any line locating will be at their expense and will not interfere with your operations. None of that, we can't find the line so you can't dig bs 10 yrs down the road.

Most importantly, penalties for breaking the rules. Contracts with out penalties are useless. Sueing for damages is a joke and they know it.

If you can imagine it going wrong, it will at some point.

This is some good info I didn't dive into.

For two non-interstate lines we got annual agreements to be paid for maintaining the ROW. Were not successful on the interstate line as they said regulations required certain things we didn't want to pursue.

[M16]

How long ago was that? I was told 3 was the rule of thumb several years ago, and was able to get that. Saw $4.90 per inch foot recently.

Fairly recent. It depends somewhat on land values. Different areas bring different prices.