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    This is why Saban wins... because he's a liar and a cheater

    interesting read about Saban whose ego is bigger than Texas



    Commentary: Chizik's classiness shows up Saban ...
    2-2-12 .... Montgomery Advertiser

    Auburn did not win recruiting on Wednesday. Not in the nation. Not even in this state. The Tigers did, however, win the high road.

    In a move that has the potential to be a game changer for recruiting in this state and in the SEC, Auburn presented its 20 football signees in the 2012 class with four-year scholarships, instead of the standard one-year deals.
    Basically, AU promised that if these 20 student-athletes will maintain the minimum required grade point average and stay out of trouble, they will have a scholarship at Auburn for the next four years.

    They won't be cut because they slip down the depth chart. They won't be processed out of the program because a better, younger player comes along.
    Instead, Auburn is going to act less like a football factory and more like an institution of higher learning.

    That's a problem for some colleges. Particularly the one that resides in Tuscaloosa. The one whose coach couldn't even make it to National Signing Day before processing out two players.

    Nick Saban, college football's king of oversigning, medical redshirting, greyshirting and roster manipulation, turned in one of his all-time worst performances this year. Thanks to a new rule from the SEC that capped signing classes at 25 -- Alabama signed 26, so obviously the rule's working great -- Saban was even more pressed than usual.

    Bad news for Darius Philon.

    After already jerking an offer within the last month to Georgia running back Justin Taylor -- who ended up signing with Kentucky on Wednesday -- Alabama yanked a scholarship offer from Philon within the last week, and possibly as late as Wednesday morning.

    (It's unclear when the offer was yanked because Philon, who was visibly upset, refused to speak with the media. His coach, Kerry Stevenson, who should have been outraged over one of his players being jerked around like that, instead said he wasn't sure when the offer was pulled and blamed the SEC's new rule for putting UA in "a bind." Thanks for looking out, coach. )

    Philon had been committed to Alabama since September and even wore a UA hat to his Signing Day ceremony at Vigor on Wednesday. But when it came time to sign, the three-star-rated defensive lineman quietly left the stage without signing a national letter of intent.

    Why? ..... Because a couple of highly rated players decided to switch their college choice to Alabama. That left Nick Saban with a dilemma: Take the highly rated guys or honor your commitment to Philon, who has been so committed to Alabama that he refused to even take another recruiting visit.

    We all know Saban's choice. We could've guessed it before he made it.
    Philon later that day signed with the Arkansas Razorbacks.

    Honestly, taking the high road from Saban is the easiest win Gene Chizik will ever get. It's like winning a Good Ideas for Space Exploration Contest over Newt Gingrich. And that's what makes Auburn's decision to offer four-year scholarships so brilliant.

    It takes advantage of Saban's one glaring weakness -- his ruthlessness.

    For years, Saban has treated college football like a cutthroat business. He's skirted recruiting rules, danced around scholarship limitations and been surrounded by more career ending injuries to third-string players than any coach in the history of organized athletics.

    The NCAA and SEC have passed legislation to slow him down. But the effectiveness of those rules will pale in comparison to the effectiveness of parents choosing Auburn over Alabama because they feel a bit more like the Auburn coaching staff has their child's best interest in mind, that it's not completely about the Wins.

    Saban was asked about offering four-year scholarships to Alabama players. He refused to comment on it specifically, but did say he felt the practice caused many legal problems back when four-year deals were the norm decades ago.

    But it doesn't really matter if he does start offering them. Because even that changes his MO and drastically limits his ability to oversign without the threat of a lawsuit.

    That's a problem for Alabama. And it's a big win for Auburn and the rest of the SEC. After the last month of college football, it's obvious that they needed one.

    #2
    "act less like a football factory and more like an institution of higher learning."

    That sums it up right there....Isn't that why the kids are there to begin with?

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      #3
      As much as I agree with your sentiment, Blake... you have to admit it sounds a little jaded coming from the guy in Lafayette.

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        #4
        Good read Blake...

        Although he has been extremely successful doing it, it is good to hear the SEC is trying to rein in his ruthless ways.

        I MIGHT feel a little bit different if he had just won my team two national championships though...but that doesn't make it right...LOL

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          #5
          This might be the most bias loaded article I've ever read haha

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            #6
            Don't know which college coach I dislike more.... Nick Saban for football or John Calipari for basketball. Both are bigger lairs and cheats than any of the typical college coaches.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Smart View Post
              I MIGHT feel a little bit different if he had just won my team two national championships though...but that doesn't make it right...LOL
              Originally posted by 150class View Post
              This might be the most bias loaded article I've ever read haha

              See I told ya....Roll **** Tide! ...

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                #8
                LSU runs a close second in this SEC over signing saga...


                SI has a big write up on it.

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                  #9
                  First off I am a huge Auburn fan, bleed orange and blue, but one of our signees picked AU because we have a Chic-fil-a near campus. Not like we are aiming for the best and brightest SCHOLAR athletes. I've never liked Saban though, he is a snake in the grass to the highest degree, just ask LSU and the Dolphins. War Eagle!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Smart View Post
                    See I told ya....Roll **** Tide! ...

                    Haven't heard anything about the situation but as a fan when every other sentence contains "ruthless or cut throat" just shows the writer is very bias against Saban (possibly jealous?) and makes me not want to read it. Hope the situation didn't truly go down like the article said, maybe a little "media hype" but who knows. Saban is tricky I'll admit that but when your good at what you do people are going to be jealous and question your ways and ethics no matter what.

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                      #11
                      It is no secret (and there have been numerous articles plus the number of players signed) that Satan, I mean Saban, treats the kids like disposable office furniture. I can't understand how any high school coach or parent could let their kid play for the guy.

                      -Bama has 15 kids currently on medical scholarship, that's more than the rest of the SEC combined.
                      -Kids signed in the ast 5 years: Alabama=141, Texas=110
                      Last edited by cehorn; 02-02-2012, 11:32 AM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by JimN View Post
                        "act less like a football factory and more like an institution of higher learning."

                        That sums it up right there....Isn't that why the kids are there to begin with?
                        No.
                        Most of them are there to play football and get a chance to go on to the NFL.
                        Listen to about 80% of athletes speak (not on post game interviews where they are just hyped up and acting foolish) in interviews and press conferences. Its pretty clear that they are not there for the learnin'.

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                          #13
                          Like he's the only one!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by lameduck View Post
                            Like he's the only one!

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                              #15
                              I am going there, do I agree with how nick works..... not a flipping chance but I am a means to an ends guy he wins and there is no problems but if our recruiting slips and there are issues with getting wins, well time to go


                              (Bear Bryant cut my old man and took his scholarship because he broke his neck in practice, bear's comment to him from what I understand to my old man in the hospital was "you don't play, you don't stay")
                              Last edited by BigJack; 02-02-2012, 11:37 AM.

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